Fluffy wrote:And in the following strip, Jerzy made it clear that Angel is a friend he's got deep roots with (they've been friends for a very long time) and she's not someone he can just throw away, just because Dillon doesn't approve of her.
Angel is a creepy fucking person, and repeatedly blows off Jerzy's feelings and wants for his own. That doesn't scream "Deep friendship" To me.
It has nothing to do with Dillion. In fact, Let's pretend Jerzy isn't with ANYONE. We can have all the Dillion nonsense go away and get to the issue of Jerzy and Angel. Sans Dillion.
Fluffy wrote:And no idea where you're getting the idea that by remaining friends with Angel, despite knowing she still wants him in a more physical relationship, means Jerzy is giving her false hope. (if he was encouraging her behavior, maybe I could see it - but when he gently turns her down every time she makes a hint at such things? Not so much).
"You are the most important person in my life." Doesn't reek of giving false hope to you? Really? Always being there, while knowing his new SO isn't a fan, knowing he's intentionally keeping his new SO in the dark about seeing Angel again. We're talking about someone who refuses to take a "Gentle hint" that "No we will not be a couple again." And repeatedly disavows Jerzy's feelings on the matter. He doesn;t care what Jerzy wants, Angel just wants Jerzy.
Fluffy wrote:And Angel has not screwed up Jerzy and Dillon's relationship by any stretch. No lie, she has tried (by telling Jerzy what she had witnessed) - but failed, because Jerzy refused to listen to her, each and every time. The relationship became screwed up because Dillon could not trust the fact that his boyfriend can remain friends with an ex without there being any cheating going on behind his back. He was caught spying on him, accused Jerzy outright of cheating on him (with no evidence to support his theory outside of hearing Jerzy mentioning how important Angel was to him) and vocally agreed that Jerzy was not the man for him.
For such a "Deep relationship" you would think Jerzy would listen to Angel about his liaisons. One would think he *had* listened to him before now and gotten burned by it. I know if *I* had a relationship that important,I'd want their POV on the person I was sticking things into. Angel is by no means the cause of this fight. Jerzy's being a sneaky ass and Dillion's being an over-excitable douche canoe are the reasons for the fight. Angel was just there to poke things to his advantage.
Fluffy wrote:Sure, Jerzy should have been honest about his plans for the evening (but then, how would Dillon have responded if Jerzy was completely honest? Bitch ranting and guilt tripping, I would guess) - but overall, their relationship was largely ruined by Dillon's trust issues.
Better then using a old friendship as a goad and all-but-forcing your potentially oldest friend to go against his better judgement, just so you can ogle him and maybe get in his pants again. Guilting someone who seems unable to leave you alone because "Friendship" isn't any better then guilting someone because "boyfriend"
Dillion's trust issues are one of the biggest issues yes. Jerzy's inability to handle those trust issues is another one. Jerzy's refusal to do more then pat angel on the head and say "not now dear, I'm banging this other person" is as much of an issue as anything else. If Jerzy is unable to handle those issues with the respect they need, and Dillion is unable to get past Matt's being a cheating fuckwad, then the relationship should end.
Fluffy wrote:Does a guy need to be aggressive when saying no in order for people to think he's being serious? Not all guys are like that.
He needs to be aggressive when someone is repeatedly refusing to listen to his wants for a sexual relationship. Angel wants Jerzy sex, Jerzy does not want sex with angel. Being nice about it is apparently not enough to get Angel to stop humping his leg. His refusal to do more to stop Angel is not a good thing, regardless of whoever he is currently in a relationship with.
Angel, hopefully, sees it as just a game. Jerzy playing hard to get. His being coddled is leading to his repeated attempts.
Because if he BELIEVED Jerzy, if he respected Jerzy as a human bloody being, he would HAVE STOPPED TRYING TO FUCK HIM WHEN JERZY SAID NO THE FIRST TIME.
There are *words* for people who are fully aware of a sexual relationship rejection and continue to press the issue.