2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure what other word we're expected to use for what the strips do a lot of. We actually get quite a lot of nudity, but always with critical areas obscured by baguettes, steering wheels, lens flare, or whatever. It's become a good joke in its own right.
I guess we should call it "redaction"...
I guess we should call it "redaction"...
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
Call it Manos - the Cruel Hand/Baguette of Fate.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
ow that Pierre-senpai has seen me naked, i'll never be able to get married!
sorry, even iam disgusted of myself now
sorry, even iam disgusted of myself now
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
I'd call it normal comics. If you have to see them naked without anything covered up, there's porn sites all over for you. The fact that the comic covers anything up is no big deal, and I see no reason why it keeps getting asked about.Spidrift wrote:I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure what other word we're expected to use for what the strips do a lot of. We actually get quite a lot of nudity, but always with critical areas obscured by baguettes, steering wheels, lens flare, or whatever. It's become a good joke in its own right.
I guess we should call it "redaction"...
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
There's plenty of anime and manga that features nudity and toplessness - like 'Ranma ½' and 'Tenchi Muyo!', for example - but I doubt anyone would consider them porn. It's fanservice.JoybuzzerX wrote:I'd call it normal comics. If you have to see them naked without anything covered up, there's porn sites all over for you.
That said, I agree with the overall sentiment of what you're saying. I don't see why folks keep asking about it either. It isn't hard to imagine what a pair of nipples look like, and we can guess what Pierre must be seeing. Sometimes it's more titillating to have to picture it yourself, instead of being shown. In much the same way that imagining what could be lurking in the darkness, can be just as frightening (sometimes moreso) as finding out.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
Questionable Content's flying kitty is one of my favourite instances.Spidrift wrote:I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure what other word we're expected to use for what the strips do a lot of. We actually get quite a lot of nudity, but always with critical areas obscured by baguettes, steering wheels, lens flare, or whatever. It's become a good joke in its own right.
I guess we should call it "redaction"...
And really, this strip's using a large oblong loaf of bread⁽¹⁾ has enough symbolism to be funny in its own right.
(1) I've seen someone call it a baguette. It's not. It's too thick.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
"The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything."
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
Because the comic generates an above-average number of occasions when it's needed. It really has become a recurring joke now.JoybuzzerX wrote:I'd call it normal comics. If you have to see them naked without anything covered up, there's porn sites all over for you. The fact that the comic covers anything up is no big deal, and I see no reason why it keeps getting asked about.
Which I'm really not complaining about. It's a good joke. But it's going to get mentioned in discussions, because it's recurrent, and if calling it "censorship" makes the editor twitchy, we'll need another word for it.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
"Used" and "needed" are two different things, though they occasionally overlap. Tropes are tools, after all, and the one they're invoking is called 'scenery censor'.Spidrift wrote:Because the comic generates an above-average number of occasions when it's needed.
And he's right, since calling it censorship implies there was ever any nudity to begin with. There isn't any, 'cuz it's a PG-13 comic. So what you see in the online edition, is all there ever was and all there ever will be.Spidrift wrote:Which I'm really not complaining about. It's a good joke. But it's going to get mentioned in discussions, because it's recurrent, and if calling it "censorship" makes the editor twitchy, we'll need another word for it.
From what I can see, the reason T and Eisu get twitchy about it is because folks won't stop asking for uncensored print versions, when they've already said that's not gonna happen. Ask yourselves this: how would any of you feel, if someone kept pestering you with the same question, if you had already answered it?
I know I'd get pretty annoyed. Just sayin'.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
But there is nudity, even though no-one ever drew it.Gotoh wrote:And he's right, since calling it censorship implies there was ever any nudity to begin with. There isn't any, 'cuz it's a PG-13 comic. So what you see in the online edition, is all there ever was and all there ever will be.
The censorship occurs when someone decides that there will be something obstructing the reader's view of the 'naughty bits' (which are on view in-story), not when a drawing is changed to add such obstruction.
I'm fine with the way the comic is done, and the requests for uncensored views are getting tedious (how many times does it have to be explained the the comic is PG-13), but the creators are deluding themselves if they think they are not censoring the comic.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
...and I sympathise with the creators' getting irritated at answering the same question over and over again. But it's been clear for a long time that some people post to these boards without reading them, so I'm not sure what can be done about that.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
No. Censorship is when they put a black block or some such over something. Using part of the scene (bread, bath steam, towel, hair) is not censoring.OldBrit wrote:But there is nudity, even though no-one ever drew it.Gotoh wrote:And he's right, since calling it censorship implies there was ever any nudity to begin with. There isn't any, 'cuz it's a PG-13 comic. So what you see in the online edition, is all there ever was and all there ever will be.
The censorship occurs when someone decides that there will be something obstructing the reader's view of the 'naughty bits' (which are on view in-story), not when a drawing is changed to add such obstruction.
I'm fine with the way the comic is done, and the requests for uncensored views are getting tedious (how many times does it have to be explained the the comic is PG-13), but the creators are deluding themselves if they think they are not censoring the comic.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
I don't need to see any actual nudity. I just want to get a laugh from the sexual and/or awkward situations. This strip along with strip #147 are fine the way they are.
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
Well, that'll jumpstart a relationship. Or axe it. ^^;
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Re: 2014-08-22 Prove my worth as a model
This being Sandra, both is on the table.
I definitely agree with whomever posted that Sandra would get bonus points from the model group for being brazenly naked after all. Both of her mentors will probably assume she did it on purpose, and won't hear a word otherwise.
I definitely agree with whomever posted that Sandra would get bonus points from the model group for being brazenly naked after all. Both of her mentors will probably assume she did it on purpose, and won't hear a word otherwise.