Re: 30-01-2015 [VC] The Series Finale
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:06 am
Seems the facebook group still doesn't understand how they royally screwed over the comic.
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People normally aren't willing to admit they are at fault, especially people on the Internet. Hubris, such a unforgiving and distasteful aspect of humanity in my personal opinion. But then again it's one of the things that makes us human to begin with.Tython wrote:Seems the facebook group still doesn't understand how they royally screwed over the comic.
How DID they exactly screw it over? I ask, because I visited in only once, but did they somehow broke into artists house and broke their kneecaps? Because if all they did was trolling, I doubt it was majority, or even tenth of posters. How does it ruin comic? Do artists give up on their work, because small, loud percentage of fanbase are assholes? Then no comic would last more that few pages...Tython wrote:Seems the facebook group still doesn't understand how they royally screwed over the comic.
Gen Urobuchi created a story in which...The Omnipotent One wrote:I don't remember much from Gen's work, but I will say this: Martin created a world where happiness is scarce and short-lived. The world has winters that are harsh and last years, some even decades or even lifetimes. When summer comes, it can last years or months. I always laugh when people get upset about the terrible things that happen to the characters in his stories because I know that unless a character is willing to kill, deceive, betray, and take/give a bribe, they won't last. When you remove the fantasy element, that is effectively realistic. Martin made his characters human, and humans are pretty shitty. Sure we have grown more morally conscience, but it's the people who are willing to do anything that hold power. Don't believe me? Vladimir Putin. Bashar al-Assad. Any American politician, especially those who have been saying "we should kill all the Muslims". The fact that those who are moral are NOT in charge says something in my opinion, and anyone who can make a world that says the very same thing earns my thumbs upTako wrote:Reread my post. I said that nobody is like Gen Urobuchi and that Gen Urobuchi's Puella Magi Madoka was bleaker than anything.
I only mentioned GRRM when I said that Gen Urobuchi eats four GRRMartins per day, which shows how much more terrible than GRRM is Gen Urobuchi. And yes, I used GRRM to compare with Gen because he's a popular figure that most people will know about. The point is to express how bleak is Gen's work by using another popular figure (GRRM) as a measuring stick.
But anyways, Gen Urobuchi probably isn't a good comparation to Adam. Gen's work is bleak while Adam's is usually optimistic, and Gen not always trolls the fans in the end.
I just did. Still don't get it.Tython wrote:Check out the previous thread and read some of Adams quotes.
While I agree that shifting the atmosphere of a show from positive to negative is evil, it doesn't exactly make something better than something else. In my personal opinion, the weight of something is measured by the dedication from its creator. Gen Urobuchi used the reality we know as a basis for his story with an addition of science-fiction. Martin created an entire world with its own history and cultures using history as a basis. There is a reason why people praise JRR Tolkien a lot and it's not because of how good his work is; rather it's that he dedicated a lot of time to make an entire language for his stories. When I go into an anime or a manga, I determine what is being shown to me: a created world, a alternate timeline, an adventure in the cosmos. I doubt most people are willing to go the extra 100,000 miles that many respected authors take when they make up a story. The reason the Star Wars Extended Universe has been declared null and void is because it was devised by people who were not George Lucas, thus what was once thought to be the definitive history of his creation is in actuality not. Whatever Lucas had his hand in is what is canon.Tako wrote:And worst of all, the story is initially presented as a funny, silly story about japanese schoolgirls becoming Magical Girls with cute talking pets. Compared to that, A Song Of Ice and Fire is all fun and giggles. That's why I said that Gen Urobuchi is much worse than GRRM.
Zuckerberg, trolling the globe since collegevampire hunter D wrote:Facebook, ruining the interwebs since 2004.
Yeah, when you put it that way, Puella Magi does not make sense in the real world. First of all, I seriously doubt that in the real world, a super-advanced race would just not be able to use 'magic' full-stop or that magic would be the only solution to their issuesTako wrote:...an alien race, having discovered that magic exists, but being unable to use it themselves, came to Earth in order to dupe naive children into becoming living magic batteries for them. They disguise themselves as cute talking pets, offer little girls to become Magical Girls in exchange for a single wish (wish that usually backfires).
The mission of the Magical Girls is to fight the Witches, evil magical beings who feed on human souls. The catch is, the more they use their magic, the more corrupted their souls become, until they are transformed into witches themselves.
The only way to stave the transformation is to kill witches and give their souls to the aliens. So the aliens turn little girls into monsters, and later make other little girls kill them and offer their souls, and that other little girls do it only to slow down the process that will turn them into witches that will in turn be killed and have their souls removed...etc.
It's as if the humans were cattle for the aliens, but the aliens make their cattle butcher and process each other in exchange for living a bit longer.
And worst of all, the story is initially presented as a funny, silly story about japanese schoolgirls becoming Magical Girls with cute talking pets. Compared to that, A Song Of Ice and Fire is all fun and giggles. That's why I said that Gen Urobuchi is much worse than GRRM.
But didn't Adam also said, that FB group "wasn't exactly lucrative"? (viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15987&p=537359#p537359)Tython wrote:From what I can tell the FB group was larger and gave more hits to the site, more hits equals more money from ad revenue if the facebook group was up and leaving the comic that meant fewer hits and thus less ad revenue for the comic to operate with. So Adam was forced to make the changes that he described in the previous post.