Scaramouche wrote:Harlock_the_Bard wrote:
OK, I forgot about our own eugenics movement, but there's a world of difference between 65 thousand people "simply" being sterilized and 10 million people being systematically exterminated. Again, I'm not trying to pretty up the American eugenics movement, but I don't think even the most avid of them would have approved of wholesale slaughter. Their goal, arguably laudable despite their twisted ethics, was the betterment of the human race. The extermination of millions of people whose only "crime" was being born different is not a betterment of the human race, it is a defilement of the human spirit. And yes, I believe that applies to war as well.
I didn't say the USA exterminated millions of people in death camps. I said:
World War Two gives us another example. Kids are taught the evils of Germany and Germans, and all the awful things they did. But they are rarely taught that the Allied forces in WW2 did many of the same things. Or that the NAZIs actually learned some of their tricks from the Allies in the first place.
Kindly let go of that red herring, sir or madam.
I never said the USA exterminated millions of people in death camps, nor did I say that
you had said that. The point I was trying to make is that comparing the eugenics movement to the "Final Solution" is like comparing a puppy to a kodiak bear: there may be some similarity in form and function (both are quadrupedal mammalian omnivores), but the similarities are superficial at best if one looks closely.
And now, since (1) I believe we've both made our points as best we could, (2) this has pretty much nothing to do with the official topic of the thread, and (3) Godwin's law probably should have been invoked by now, I shan't be posting to this thread any more.