worldshaking00 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:37 am
As far as 'evil' pleasure goes, I expect she will 100% redefine sex and how she views it as it pertains to her involvement with it. She already sees yaoi as being a generally pure expression of love(making).
Well, she kept saying so. That was pretty transparently desperate denial, and given that she’s generally capable of admitting when she’s wrong (even to Amber, though it hurts), I think she’s likely to quietly drop that specific line in future — though I’m sure that she’ll always argue that yaoi isn’t “porn” (because of the strong plots, attention to characterisation, refined art... fill in the rest from any yaoi fan’s set replies).
And she’s been revising her view of sex for a while now; again, she’s too honest to remain hypocritical for long. But I suspect she’ll hang on to the idea of “respectability”; she’ll just shift her boundaries a bit. A woman obviously
can enjoy sex, but she can still say that habitual screwing around or doing it for money are beyond the pale. Which will make her seem a bit of a prude in the Ma3 universe, but not that weird in real world terms.
Plus, there’s the whole thing about Amber lying to their parents. I doubt that Ruby will call her mother to announce that she’s got a boyfriend and she’s sleeping with him, but she might say that she could admit it if she had to, whereas Amber remains dishonest at heart.
JoybuzzerX wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:41 am
I feel as if the condom line was just added in to appease some readers
Well, it was a pretty obvious question for someone to raise. I don’t suppose that Giz wants these two to look like irresponsible idiots.
EvilSnack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:09 am
From what I have read in other places, discomfort during the first sexual encounter is likely due entirely (or almost entirely) to the belief that it will be painful. Apparently there is a vicious cycle/self-fulfilling prophecy going on. Girls hear that it hurts the first time, so they brace themselves for it instead of relaxing, which causes it to hurt. Then they tell this to friends who haven't done it yet, and the cycle repeats. Google
vaginismus if you're not familiar with the term.
But I know of at least one woman who reports that when she first had intercourse, she had never heard that it hurt, wasn't expecting it to hurt, and it didn't hurt.
Which raises the question of what Ruby expected. One could imagine that she would have been braced, but she was so excited and pleased that she forgot to worry. Actually, one can also imagine her doing exactly the same reading that you did, and being Ruby, trusting and internalising what she read and
making herself relax.