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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Valkog » Fri May 11, 2018 3:19 am

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by DarkAsh » Fri May 11, 2018 3:29 am

I don't see what Teddi saying as slut shaming. She's expressing her disappointed with her current situation and doesn't like what she become but didn't realize it until she saw Abby in the similar situation. She doesn't want to Abby to become a victim of her supernaturally enhanced libido. When she saw Abby fully transformed her brotherly/sisterly protective instincts kicked. If Abby was 16 and not 12 and not a full succubus she would probably be tolerant of Abby's choices, but right now she's to young to know what the right ones are.

I agree with Brasca that we don't fully know what the full affect the mixture of the two bloods is having on Teddi. Maybe the dual nature of the reaper is causing Teddi to suffer dual personalities; which could explain why she appears so different from the lovable loser we knew from the beginning.

As for why the two other succubus' aren't as active in the sheets as Teddi, it could be that as they grew up they learned how to control themselves unlike say someone was thrusted in to it with heightened sensations. Who knows.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Rosa » Fri May 11, 2018 3:56 am

Vitocap wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 7:43 pm
Using breasts to win arguments?

Teddi is turning into DiDi. :))
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DarkAsh wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 3:29 am
As for why the two other succubus' aren't as active in the sheets as Teddi, it could be that as they grew up they learned how to control themselves unlike say someone was thrusted in to it with heightened sensations. Who knows.
The other two? Chloe and Pandora?

Pandora is very active in the sheets. Why, she has just returned to the household from a several-days-long orgy with a flock of studly angels! And Chloe, well, the whole shtick with her character is that she's trying to avoid sex because it would mean the death of her sexual partner and she doesn't want that...
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by brasca » Fri May 11, 2018 5:50 am

LegendaryKroc wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 6:26 am
Really? "Dress in revealing clothing" is an in-the-blood thing for succubi? Or reapers? I find that unlikely. Succubus blood making him sensitive to touch, give off pheromones in the extreme? Sure, whatever, both those things have been established as a thing that happens. But I've seen no indication he's driven to dress a certain way because of it. Also, walk me through the thought process that says sex demons dress like strippers all the time because it's literally hard-wired into their DNA to do so and not just personal preference.
Have you seen the school uniforms the students of Tarturus wear? Do you recall the curriculum? The only time succubi dress modestly is when they're pretending to be angels.
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And in any case, that's not what you said before, brasca. You said Teddy can't help it because he just doesn't own non-sexy clothes apart from his school uniform, which his hourglass figure body can't help but turn into fetish-wear anyway, with the implication that there was nothing to be done about it. And I'm saying that simply isn't true. Nothing he's said or done indicates to me that he doesn't dress like this by choice and couldn't dress more sensibly of his own free will.
And you can't prove conclusively that it's all deliberate. Yes I think Teddi realizes at times just how promiscuous she's been and feels guilty about enjoying the experience, but it's a compulsion because Teddi isn't Teddy anymore. Teddy has the blood and ectoplasm of 2 supernatural beings that have altered his gender and species into something we can only speculate about since it's not like we have any reliable texts on the subject.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by dmra » Fri May 11, 2018 7:27 am

Teddi managed perfectly well at first not sleeping with anybody or even showing any compulsion on doing it. She managed to date a lot of the jocks without anything seriously sexual happening and only began bedding the harem as an attempt to break whatever influence they were under. And even when she was dating the jocks she admitted to Pandora that she liked it but was holding back going all the way until the "test" had been completed and the best candidates found.

So if there was any compulsion it didn't manifest itself straight away and it wasn't exactly difficult for Teddi to resist it,

To me it just seems like once he tried having sex he enjoyed it and found himself doing it more and more without thinking about it any longer. Which is why I think he's so unwilling to confront the idea that it might be his own behaviour he's worried about rather than anything Abby might do.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Gotoh » Fri May 11, 2018 8:38 am

@dmra: Teddy openly admitted to Pandora that he was struggling with his body's newfound sensitivity, which is why he said it was getting harder for him to keep his legs closed. And, later, Pandora explained it was because a succubus' skin has heightened sensitivity, especially to a male's touch.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by dmra » Fri May 11, 2018 8:47 am

There's a difference between struggling to resist something that feels good and being compelled to do it. The fact that Teddi could resist it for so long suggests that it wasn't impossible for him to do so just that he stopped trying. It wasn't that he had no ability to control his urges it was just that like Janet Weiss he'd tried blood and he wanted more

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Gotoh » Fri May 11, 2018 9:07 am

Compulsion isn't always the same as outright control. If Teddy were still in his original body, he wouldn't have had a problem resisting (since he wasn't attracted to males, 'til after the change), but his new succubus body makes it difficult for him. He fought the urge, until he finally went all the way and discovered how good it felt. And, from that point on, he became more willing to have sex.

At least, that's how it's seemed ever since he changed.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by dmra » Fri May 11, 2018 9:16 am

Gotoh wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 9:07 am
He fought the urge, until he finally went all the way and discovered how good it felt. And, from that point on, he became more willing to have sex.

At least, that's how it's seemed ever since he changed.
Which makes it a matter of personal choice rather than an unavoidable consequence of being injected with succubus blood and reaper ectoplasm which was the point I was making. Teddi could have stopped having sex any time he wanted to. He just didn't want to.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by LegendaryKroc » Fri May 11, 2018 9:29 am

brasca wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 5:50 am
Have you seen the school uniforms the students of Tarturus wear? Do you recall the curriculum? The only time succubi dress modestly is when they're pretending to be angels.
Yes, I have seen their uniforms and recall the curriculum. (Mostly.) No, I don't see that as proof dressing sexy is an instinct for a succubus. You might as well say that any dress code is in-the-blood for any given group of humans who dress a certain way all the time unless in privacy or when going to sleep. No, as far as I'm concerned it's a cultural thing - succubus culture teaches that sexy-dressing is normal and innocuous and fun, therefore they just do it without thinking about it. Likewise with the angels and their modesty thing. (Though for the record, angels can dress in swim wear and it's not considered odd, for whatever that's worth.)
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Fri May 11, 2018 5:50 am
And you can't prove conclusively that it's all deliberate. Yes I think Teddi realizes at times just how promiscuous she's been and feels guilty about enjoying the experience, but it's a compulsion because Teddi isn't Teddy anymore. Teddy has the blood and ectoplasm of 2 supernatural beings that have altered his gender and species into something we can only speculate about since it's not like we have any reliable texts on the subject.
The only reason we don't understand what reaper ectoplasm does is because the comic has never gone into the specifics, biologically or culturally, of what it means to be a reaper. We've seen that it means being what ever biological sex you feel like being at any given moment, and heard vague mentions of superiors that Alchemy answers to as a pencil-pusher, but other than that he/she is the only reaper we've seen or heard about.

And why exactly would reaper ectoplasm affect the way Teddy dresses? In fact, I can't honestly tell if it had any effects at all.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Gotoh » Fri May 11, 2018 9:36 am

@dmra: If Teddy were still human, that'd be one thing. Except we know he isn't and we know his new body makes him susceptible to a male's touch. That may not be as easy to resist as you seem to think it should be.

Ace went through a similar experience while he was a girl, due to hormonal changes, except he was better at resisting it. Whereas Kade, being a horndog, didn't even try.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Fluffy » Fri May 11, 2018 12:25 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 9:36 am
@dmra: If Teddy were still human, that'd be one thing. Except we know he isn't and we know his new body makes him susceptible to a male's touch. That may not be as easy to resist as you seem to think it should be.
And yet, despite the struggle, Teddy managed to keep himself from giving in for the longest while. He actually had to force himself to give the jocks BJs by reminding himself why he was doing it in the first place (literally picturing the penis as a mini Chloe and convincing himself that she would have done the same for him if the situations were reversed in order to go through with it). Even after having sex with Al, he wasn't in any hurry to have sex with any of the jocks until after Chloe faited; and even then, didn't seem to much care for the idea of having to go through with it, if his expression is any indication of that.

If Teddy has to find excuses in order to have sex with men - then Teddy's promiscuity isn't a result of the succubus skin making him crave men; it's entirely due to Teddy's own choices/desires on the matter. It's just easier for him to blame the succubus skin for it instead of accepting accountability for his own choices.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by dmra » Fri May 11, 2018 12:33 pm

@Gotoh

The example of Ace and Kade didn't involve cross species change so even if it was relevant the fact that Ace could resist is anything in favour of the argument that Teddi should be able to as well. Kade didn't try because his character was already a randy devil that would go with anybody remotely attractive with a pulse nothing to do with changing to a girl.

And if Teddi was being compelled to do something by his physiology rather than just finding it intensely pleasurable surely we'd have seen some sign of it. Something equivalent to a succubus getting weak if they don't feed. But other than the conversation with Pandora where Teddi was saying it was hard to resist going further with the jocks I don't recall anything like that at all.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Fereshte » Fri May 11, 2018 1:01 pm

Sex, especially with men, feels really good to Teddi. Once she finally did it, she realized it was really enjoyable. She knows sex is a choice. Saying she is forced to or it’s compulsory simply because it feels really good is kind of ridiculous. Sex feels really good. Lots of people fight the urge to have sex because it feels really good. Teddi is just using the excuse of succubus blood for why she’s having sex with men, but she’s already expressed that she’s enjoyed it. To call herself a slut after this, like it’s some horrible thing, is both slut-shaming and disappointing. She’s using the world slut in a negative way (which it is a negative word but some people use it otherwise). This comic has some real regressive opinions about sex and I don’t think this is the first time it’s come up. For a comic about sex, I find this a bit disturbing. Teddi could have worded her discontent several ways, but she decided to slut shame instead and I’m honestly disappointed. Like I said, Teddi needs to grow up a little.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 9-05-18 One of Us

Post by Fluffy » Fri May 11, 2018 1:36 pm

This isn't the first time Teddy has referred to himself as being a slut - he said the exact same thing back when he learned that his mission to find Chloe the perfect 'boyfriend' was all for naught. Only, back then, it was somehow worse - as he assumed that, by being as promiscuous as he was, he understood what it meant to be a succubus.

So, Teddy thinks that succubi are little more than wanton sluts because he's had an insatiable sexual appetite ever since his forced gender swap?
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