dmra wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:24 am
You were saying that DC was in a genre where parents didn't appear because it would be boring for both the readers and the creators. I pointed out that this wasn't actually true and quite often parents did appear, if only occasionally. I mentioned Lance appearing in DC because that was an example of that. An appearance that you seemed not to have noticed because you said parents never showed up because it would be boring and the artists wouldn't want to show it.
For the rest of your post you may not have noticed but actually we're not a mile apart in our views .
Maybe. But I want you to consider these two sentences:
"The hero lives in his house alone or with siblings, his parents live elsewhere."
and
"The hero's parents never show their faces in the story, never ever evar."
Are you aware of the difference betwixt the two assertions? I'm asking this because, if you are, then you should easily realize that refuting the second one and then claiming victory over somebody who stated the first one constitutes bad form in a debate -- the straw man fallacy, as logic calls it -- and actually casts doubt over the sincerity of your commitment to the discussion.
Some posters were lamenting the fact that Lance, who appeared for a short visit not too long ago, doesn't live in the house with his children. I quoted that bit about Lance (thus proving that, yes, I
am aware of his visit) and explained that having the parents live far away, as DC does, is actually a classic trope in manga (I didn't specify which genre of manga, which was perhaps a mistake, but in my defense I will say that I honestly thought that any intelligent reader would understand I meant the DC sort of manga). Then I got replies from Gotoh saying:
"Ah hah, you forget Lance once visited the house! You are refuted!" and
"Oh yeah? Well I know series of a completely different genre which keep the parents at home! I win!" He tried to exemplify, too, but his knowledge of manga and anime is so godawfully poor that he bungled all his examples, mistaking names and authors, mistaking adults for teens, and claiming that all Japanese anime is made for export to the West. He even stooped so low as to personally attack me, calling me things. It was rude.
Rereading my posts, in all humbleness, I can't find anything that justifies such errors and horrors of comprehension. If the teen hero of a manga gets superpowers, starts skipping classes to fight other superhumans, and brings a couple of hot babes to live with him and sleep in his bed (all common happenings in this genre), it's way better if his parents are living elsewhere -- otherwise they would most likely object to these developments, resulting in endless reprimands and arguments and making the manga boring as watching grass grow. This doesn't preclude a visit to their son in one of the chapters; in fact, that would make for a fun episode -- what with all the things he'll have to hide. There's no contradiction here. Even a 10-year-old child would get the idea nice and clear.
And yet, look at the replies I got. Get the gist of each message.
You understand, I hope, that, after this, I can't really be blamed if I start doubting the good faith of my interlocutors.