The word usage tends to be kind of iffy. Personally, I define anyone whose process does not include transitioning of some form (hormones, surgery, etc) to be transsexual while everyone else (including Ang) to be transgender. And being transsexual is to transgender what being a square is to being a rectangle (that is, a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square). How the Trans Community uses these terms is a whole other kettle of wax here, and to be honest, I've never gotten along very well with the Community anyway.Morwen wrote:Honest question here for whomever (whoever?) feels like answering:wallweasels wrote:*snip*...and transsexual usually means you are were an Y and now you are a X, or vice versa.
Isn't transsexual technically used for people in the process of X-to-Y (or Y-to-X) and they are simply X or Y afterwards?
Just going by etymology and all...
Plus, transvestite has connotations of sexual arousal. That is, someone who is a transvestite is thought to derive sexual pleasure from dressing as the opposite gender while someone who simply crossdresses is thought to derive happiness/satisfaction from doing so without it being a component of their sexual arousal.wallweasels wrote:Most people I have known wouldn't be offended by transvestite...but its a tad dated and I bet someone is offended by it somewhere . Crossdressing (or just "CD") is a much more common usage now.Morwen wrote:I thought the term for the crossdressing bit was transvestite, or is that not PC anymore?
And just to be clear, I'm still going by etymology alone.
Unfortunately, I've been on the receiving end of a variety of hatred from just about everyone in the Community. The biphobia and transphobia isn't just among gay men. There are a number of biphobic and transphobic lesbians out there, and even within the Trans Community, there are people who can be very prejudiced. For those who wouldn't know, not all trans people identify as the Trans part, and unfortunately, that can mean a lot of prejudice getting thrown at someone who doesn't see being trans as being an identity. I'm probably mangling this explanation.JerrBear wrote:Indeed. I've met plenty of Biphobic and Transphobic Gay Men. Despite our history of calling for accepting of people-as-they-are, it's not too uncommon to meet other Gay Men who aren't accepting. In my own experience with my community: Gay, Caucasian, Young, Able-bodied, and Not-Fat seems to be the preferred representation; especially as the politics start shifting towards more "socially conservative" attitudes. Though, I want to stress that YMMV with experience.Cortez wrote:Unfortunately, this sorta thing isn't uncommon. Like their are gay men that are biphobic for example.Don Alexander wrote:I'm quite amused that Mr. Super-Duper Gay, Dillon, is spouting anti-queer nonsense worthy of a big-C Conservative. Previously thinking Angel was just an emo Harlequin guy, he has now quickly turned 180° and defines Angel by her boobs...
Edit: I don't believe that most people in the Gay Community are like I mentioned above. A little under half. I've also experienced the opposite.
Simply put, there's a lot of hate within the Community, and Dillon is showing a lot of the usual signs of being one of those who has a very narrow view of gender and identity.