cellabella wrote:Fluffy wrote:
Dillon only refused Matt because Gary walked in and interrupted Matt's seduction. If he didn't walk in at that moment, Dillon most likely would have caved.
I have conceded in a subsequent post that this is a fair point. Matt seems to be a weak spot with Dillon. I think Dillon is done thinking he and Matt will ever work out and I do think that he probably would have resisted temptation, but if he'd ended up face down in Matt's crotch, I would not have been shocked. Disappointed, yes, but not shocked.
I find Jerzy to be a liar by omission. What he said to Erik about his fling with Zii was not something that a guy who had no obligation to someone would say. He clearly knew that Angel considered them an item and he left that out when he decided to bang Zii. Zii was no innocent here, either, but I don't think it's fair to let Jerzy off scott free because he's not out and out lying. That said, again in a subsequent post I said that as soon as Dillon figured it out, he should have confronted Jerzy, not hatched up this lame scheme. I know that it was necessary for the comic to progress, but in "real life," it was a bad move on Dillon's part, because now he looks like the weirdo, when Jerzy's lack of honesty got the ball rolling.
I'm not a Dillon stan. I was creeped out by his weird obsession with Gary and that he was not exactly teaching him the Swirly for altruistic means. Though not as creeped out as I was by Amber getting Gary to eat her out under false pretenses, which I never heard too much of an outcry over. :/ Additionally, he has been wrong to cockblock Amber. Gary has made it clear that he is not interested in Dillon and likely is not in any way interested in men. Dillon's petulance about that has been a sore point for me. Amber and Gary are adults, and if they want to fuck, they should feel free to do so without worrying about hurting Dillon's feelings. Dillon is selfish and he appears to have poor impulse control. Neither of these things are okay. I have said that I feel like SDB is going to be a wakeup call of sorts for Dillon. He wants a steady relationship but he doesn't have any more idea about how to go about that than Gary does, really.
Also, I think it's unfair to ding him for a distrustful nature. He left a sweet pad and a roommate he really liked because he thought he'd met The One in Matt, who subsequently cheated on him. Yes, Dillon is going to be distrustful after that. Somehow I feel like if this were Erik, being gunshy about a new relationship after Zii, there wouldn't be anywhere as near the anger, and he and Dillon basically were screwed over in the exact same way.
And yet, because his new boy toy is still friends with an ex lover (of whom still has the hots for her ex and doesn't much like Dillon), Dillon automatically believes that Jerzy is shacking up with Angel, despite the fact that Jerzy has never shown any reciprocation for Angel's feelings and has made it clear - to both of them - that Dillon is his main squeeze.
Making it clear to Angel would be to tell them to stop being an asshole, which Jerzy had not. He expected Dillon to just turn the other cheek as Angel openly lusts after his boyfriend. That's ... okay with you? I remember during the whole Kiley arc when Didi was putting her down and flirting openly with Gary that people wanted to roast Didi at the stake. Yet, Dillon is suddenly a paranoid douche because he's angry that every time he turns around, Angel is trying stuff their tongue down Jerzy's throat and Jerzy's only response is a halfhearted "Cut it out Angel"?
You hate Dillon, apparently. That's cool. It must make for reading a comic that is all about him tough, though, because I very highly doubt he is going to get the comeuppance that you and others feel he deserves.
TwoWayStar wrote:Honestly I agree with Cellabella. I love Dillon, I think he's great character, and already I can see him changing for the better little by little. Every single forum update I read though seems to be a constant repeat of "UGH Dillon is so awful and terrible and everything that happens is 100% his fault". You don't have to like him..but recognize that it's not always entirely his fault.
Yeah, it's just ... yes. Dillon has done a ton of gross shit. So has Zii. So has Yuki. So has Didi. So has Matt. Arguably, with the first Swirly, so did Amber. But Dillon, who literally went nowhere near Gary and was only in his vicinity because Gary came into the washroom, gets beat over the head. I mean, I get it in a way, but it's just strange.
Jerzy does have huge issues about Angel and seems to turn a blind eye whenever Angel messes with someone he's interested in. We've only seen evidence with Dillon but from the way Angel's acting, manipulating the person Jerzy's into doesn't seem new.
My theory is that Jerzy feels that his selfishness in fucking Zii ruined an opportunity for Angel (and Zii) to make the big time before now. They are both good musicians and probably could have had a record deal by now if not for Jerzy deciding to get his cock wet and Zii deciding to oblige him. I think Jerzy feels like he doesn't deserve Angel's high regard, and frankly, it is coming off a little obsessive. You're still openly lusting after a guy who cheated on you and who has told you to your face that your fling was a mistake? I mean I get that Jerzy is sending major mixed signals of his own, but it's still a little weird.
Also...it seems there's an abundance of almost white-knighting for Ruby. As though she is a delicate flower who wilts at the first sign of some trouble. For example, about finding out about Zii and Amber..some reacted like she was going to cry or break or something. I dunno she seems like she's a trooper to me! I admire her a lot honestly.
I think that Ruby lived something of a sheltered life, and not entirely by choice. Zii said early in the Ma3 comic that Amber's parents were wealthy doctors. When their eldest went into porn, I can imagine that Ruby got a lot of helicopter parenting and coddling. This is the first time she's living out on her own and there is a lot of stuff she legit doesn't know or understand. Also, prior to finding out what Amber did for a living, she probably wanted to be around her big sister and felt excluded when Amber shut her out. I don't know the age difference, but it doesn't seem that vast, and so that had to hurt. I think that SDB will see Ruby toughening up a lot and gaining a lot of real world experience. I find it somewhat strange, too, that Amber has sort of left Ruby to fend for herself. I get that they aren't close, but Dillon has almost entirely stepped into the role of Ruby's mentor and Amber seems to be just ... there.
Bambikles wrote:
You don't get it at all. People are annoyed at Dillon because he's CAMP and that mortal sin shall not and will not be forgiven. EVER.
Even worse, he's CAMP GAY, which is a type of character many people, rightly or wrongly, hope to never see again because they find it old, clichéd, overplayed, when not downright demeaning.
That's how I see things. Of course I can be mistaken.
Sorry to be a killjoy, but again my experiences on this forum have taught me not to assume things. So sorry in advance to come off as a killjoy if you're being facetious. If it's true that Dillon's perceived campiness is something that turns people off, then I'm not sure how to respond to that. Different strokes, I guess.
Double post merged. The DAMNed