brasca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:42 pm
Thank you Eisu for saying what I really wish I could. I had hoped to read a similar post from Dave or Jason once Dangerously Chloe ended, but alas no words of rebuke aimed at the haters.
I really did enjoy these stories, but I'm finding the message board increasingly tedious. It's still not enough to deliver an epic exit speech since I'm still following Pixie Trix Comix.
Allow me to try:
I'll be honest, fast or not, if a girl who has been shown to be at the very least questionably sexually fluid really bothers you that she ended up with a girl then I really don't think Pixie Trix comics was ever for you. I've seen this complaint leveled at a great deal of the Pixie Trix stuff and I think some of you needed to realize a decade ago that if you were looking for typical straight guy meets straight girl romance stories that this was absolutely not your comic series. As a lesbian I personally find it rather frustrating that these arcs are just seen as male-pandering when historically this forum and the pixie trix line has had a lot of queer fans. I understand this forum has really distilled over the last decade, but if a gay ending is at all shocking and offensive to you then you probably have a much better line of webcomics to follow that is out there ready for you. Trust me, straight romance comics are out there for you to enjoy.
Does it take away that this felt a little rushed? No, I agree, but this has been set up and a quick reread of the series will tell you this has been flagged on the sails for literally years. I am sad a lot of characters ended up being forgotten, but the series also hit a deadline and the mainline MA3 series has ended. To assume this was malicious and not a matter of circumstance is taking this perhaps more seriously than necessary.
Between MA3 and SotR, I am frankly shocked that a webcomic series started by a woman is ending with accusations of pandering to male fans with gay romances and kisses after all these years. The fanservice is annoying? MA3 had near full nudity for 7 years, and SotRs pushed it pretty far with the creative censoring - but a kiss on the last page is too far when we've literally had oral sex on the page. The pandering and fanservice is a feature. The romance with Cammi may had came to a result suddenly, but this is not a brand new thing that appeared out of nowhere from a previous straight girl - she has been all over for a long time. I kinda agree settlings on "labels dont matter" is vague, but this is not new and its frankly a weirder interpretation to say that drunk Sandra is a completely different person; thats not how any of this works.
I'm not down to say this was perfect, but christ I cannot believe Pixie Trix users are beating down a consistently lgbt comics ring for daring to "pander to the girl-on girl crowd". I feel like I'm back in fucking 2009 where plenty of you never fucking left when this same complaint was being rained down on Zii. Here is a shocker for some of you - the comic before MA3 way back when ended with a girl-girl romance as well. Sometimes a comic series is not aimed towards you - the consistent amount of gay content in this comics ring should of long, long ago told you this stuff wasn't for you. If this is pandering to men, then you're the men still here - you realize that right?
I got introduced to pixie trix by a lesbian, I have chatted with irl and internet lgbt friends about these series, the comics ring is run by a woman who enjoys stories with sexually fluid character, and may just happen to MAYBE like drawing sexy girls. Why some of you are still here expecting the straight lives of Friends astonishes me, and why there is still a lingering assumption that pixie trix and its romances are designed to pander to a male audience exclusively is just.. ugh.
The same people bitching that Sandra is daring to kiss a girl after being "straight" are the ones here, years later, who were moaning in threads about how emasculating it was that Gary liked to be pegged. I agree that another arc or two could of sorted a lot out and built Sandra/Cammi more,
but ffs they nearly fucked in a shower when she was stone cold sober - don't act like Eisu and Dave are destroying Giz's character as if they stole her property and rewrote her without her permission. Sober Sandra was never exclusively attracted to men, and Drunk Sandra was not just a throwaway gag, and Sober Sandra at multiple points in this series showed interest in Cammi as well as a predilection to jumping headlong into relationships like plenty of the MA3 -verse cast. Maybe we were all reading a completely different series but I feel like for some of you Sandra only ever showed interest in Pierre that was the end of the story, or else holy hell are some people's gaydars really broken to not pick up on -anything- that would assume Sandra to be something other than 100% straight. What the hell is a "girl crush"? One of those friendly, perfectly normal things straight girls do when they sexually lust after another woman? Are you listening to what you are typing out?
It is the death of this place that we're left with so many remainers who stick in a Pixie Trix comics circle to whine with each other about how Pixie Trix is too gay and is just now too risque, too emasculating, or how "shit" the writing is - the same complaint they've made for years despite logging in once a week to say it. There is questioning and dislike, and then theres just outwardly being terrible to the creators. This is not aimed at anyone who thinks Cammi and Sandra just don't work in chemistry, but those of you saying "bleh more girl-on-girl" can kiss my gay ass. I found this series back in 2009 at a time when my High School's lgbt club was being shut down by a megachurch down the street that was leading the charge against gay marriage in California - when our house was being vandalized for daring to put pro-lgbt signs out for support. I'm sorry Pixie Trix was never typically straight normal Gary and his harem of straight girls doing christian straight girl things so you can feel good about your own mascilinity, but it really never was. Plus, "Another" girl-on-girl romance shouldn't shock anyone who's been following Giz's work - its a theme that has played out in a lot of her work, not something she is trying to irritate you personally with.
I don't care how many PM's I get from Alexander or whomever about this later, but having lurked this place for 10 years and at the end of the line for the series I followed I am willing to go out saying that this forum would of been healthier in the long term if a good number of people who bitched for years about the gay content, Gary and the pegging, never letting them live down Eerie Cuties, constantly assailing threads with how shit you think everything is for literal years and are now sitting here chewing out Eisu, Dave, and Giz for daring to have a girl/girl romance ending should of been banned years ago or should have just left when they realized the series was not for them. There is constructive criticism, and there is just being a dick because you didn't get the ship end you wanted - welcome to my world. Some of the people here feel like they are barely fans and aren't even interested in the series - some just log into a forum account to spit on the creators once a week when something drops as if reading the comic for years somehow justifies it instead of doing the sensible thing and just not reading anymore. For fucks sake, plenty of you are still openly moaning about how Eerie Cuties ended and that literally WAS YEARS AGO. Eerie cuties has been done for years - I get you weren't happy with the ending, but its time to let that go.
This place has been disgustingly toxic in waves over the last decade and couldn't even let a rushed, but fair ending in the time they had sit without shitting all over Eisu who has been working at this comic between having another fucking job - you're allowed to not be pleased with the ending, go for it, but the last few months of this forum have been gross and exceedingly entitled. I know for a fact that the constant negativity and combativeness of this entire forum drove off good fun people - plenty of people should of been banned years ago, and that is the truth.
Every one of you who is sitting there thinking "ugh pandering to girl-on-girl fans", kiss my gay ass and go back to 2009 where culture will proudly hug your brave stance that girl/girl romance can ONLY possibly be aimed at titillating men and the gays are ruining your fiction. Statements like that made being a gay teenager shit and 10 years later I am not going to be shamed for thinking a kiss might be nice and romantic and not to just give you a boner. Some of the "girl-on-girl crowd" are people with lives, and some of us have actual girlfriends who enjoy media we happen to find lines up with us - you're the one still reading comics in an lgbt comic circle wondering where all your straight romance is. Maybe some wires got crossed, but SotR's never felt to me like the Pixie Trix comic that was going to give you the great male/female love story of the ages
Want Yaoi? Go read yaoi. Want some solid straight guys doing straight guy stuff without fanservice and gays getting in the way? Penny Arcade still has a website and a forum waiting for you and your quality "constructive criticism". Hate seeing women kissing and "yet more girl-on-girl relationships"? Then literally the rest of fiction is waiting out there for you to indulge in.
I don't know how this forum became a haven of asshole straight guys complaining about pegging and same-sex couples, but you sure drove everyone else away and that is pretty sad.
As for Eisu:
Eisu, you were only ever nice to me in PM's, you have been open and nice for years on this forum despite undo blame being tossed on you multiple times, and as a fellow artist I'm sorry the comic you worked on for years had to be cut down due to scheduling and the finale with your happy ending you put your heart into is being torn down. I loved your art, both the old and the new style, and this series consistently made me smile and laugh more than any other webcomic in my rotation. This will be one I go back and read years later. There are loose ends open, but this was still a lot of fun and I'm happy to have been a reader for all these years - I hope whatever you do next is as fun as this was.