2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by OllieOrOlly » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:57 am

So, Alex was kept as the psycho pair's little f**kboy? Not great; raises further questions about whether he discovered Eloise's true gender, or was kept in the dark about that momentary dual identity (one could argue, "he has sex with two hot chicks, so who cares!" but being gaslit multiple times and overloaded with sensory experience, even pleasure, could do more harm than good to his mind at least).
I guess one could presume that f**kboy, formerly known as Alex, turned out to be an idiot savant of sex, since he was kept as their toy well after they needed him for Sandra-destroying schemes; though, it could simply be their sociopathic delight in "playing" with the formerly decent kid. Also, it feels like Marie's discovery of that was a bit too tangential, i.e. in a "catch up" montage, rather than in the story proper.
Marie's friendship seemed valuable to Alex, so when he thought he was gay, he didn't trust anyone more than her to tell, however, when he found out he wasn't gay, or at least strictly gay, he didn't rectify the misunderstanding, since apparently sex - as euphoric as it may be - has made him disregard her friendship, as well as making her feel and become someone not as valuable as before, simply because of the machinations of some psycho-bitch with a cousin fetish.

Seems kind of - if barely - sweet that Cammi and Ingrid formed a more emotional connection, since it was entirely physical at the start; although, not too emotionally invested if Ingrid stayed to work with the person Cammi denounced. Granted, she could be serving in a "keep friends close, but keep enemies closer" capacity, to keep Cammi informed of Zoe's actions.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Cortez » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:30 am

Gotoh wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:58 am
Cortez wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:40 am
Actually, Cammi and Domenico hooked up after Zoe and Domenico broke up, remember? Zoe doesn't care.
Yes she does.
You can't just link to random strips use that as an argument. Especially that one, which isn't evidence of anything.

And clearly doesn't, otherwise she would have fired Cammi the first time.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by christopheftw » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:56 am

Alex still seems bi or bicurious, but definitely more into girls than guys. Did Marie finally turn to Christophe, and what is the status of his own fantasies toward Alex? Will Sandra jump in and make everything right amongst all her friends?

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by LonestarF1 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:12 am

Cortez wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:30 am
Gotoh wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:58 am
Cortez wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:40 am
Actually, Cammi and Domenico hooked up after Zoe and Domenico broke up, remember? Zoe doesn't care.
Yes she does.
You can't just link to random strips use that as an argument. Especially that one, which isn't evidence of anything.

And clearly doesn't, otherwise she would have fired Cammi the first time.
We can't? http://www.sandraontherocks.com/strips- ... _damn_good

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Spidrift » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:16 am

And today, we are introduced to Cammi's Amazing Invisible Nipples...

Oh dear, poor Marie. I wonder if she rebounded? I'd hate to think that she was moping around unknowingly waiting for Alex to become available and apologise; this comic doesn't strike me as the sort to pitch "Nice Guys Can, Nice Girls Don't". Perhaps Christophe got his (earlier) wish... (And did Penelope get photographic evidence there?)
brasca wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:08 am
I didn't think Cammi could go along with whatever Zoe had planned even if it was supposedly in her best interest. I don't see how this would hurt Zoe's business, but then again Ingrid might not have been referring to the modeling agency when she said everything's gone wrong.
I don't think she was, particularly. That drama llama clearly trampled over a lot of people. The agency may be coining it hand over fist, and yet everyone could still be miserable.
brasca wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:08 am
I'm hoping the revelation of Alex's sexuality didn't destroy his friendship with Marie, but if he's still with Eloise and Nadine I think he can live with that.
I suspect that Eloise may have discarded him once he outlived his usefulness. After all, she'll have been plotting to grab Pierre's attention.
RConrad wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:50 am
And Alex trying to explain his 'between a rock and a hard place' situation to Marie would be hilarious and tragic at the same time.
The sad thing for the readers is that we didn't get to see it, because of this accelerated wrap-up process.
KittyHat wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:25 am
I have a pet theory that maybe they actually can't come off at all. Like maybe she can't take them off because that's really just part of her face.
Insert quote from William Gibson's Neuromancer...
Storm-forge mystique wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:00 am
Pretty sure it's fifteen in France, and sixteen in Canada - and virtually everywhere else. Eighteen is just a handful of US states, one of which happens to be very loud.
Notably California -- where the very-loud-indeed movie and TV industries happen to be centered.
vampire hunter D wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:55 am
I'm sure they dropped the plot soon after. But Eloise still lost Pierre anyway. So a 3way hook up with Alex, who she seemed to enjoy hanging out with a lite, could have just been for compensation.
I don't know if she exactly enjoys hanging out with him. But he's a pliable teenage boy, by no means hideous, who probably does what she tells him quite willingly -- and she probably finds him hilariously easy to manipulate. So using him for a few stress-relief threesomes would be quite in character.

Anyhow, that scene may have happened before Eloise discovered that Sandra had disappeared from the business, so she may still have had a little scheme to destroy Sandra for revenge and on general principles running.
christopheftw wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:56 am
Will Sandra jump in and make everything right amongst all her friends?
I'm guessing that'll be the plot of the next few strips, though I suspect she'll do good more by luck than judgement.
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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Cortez » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:20 am

LonestarF1 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:12 am


We can't? http://www.sandraontherocks.com/strips- ... _damn_good
That one just confirms that the thing between her and Domenico is casual.
brasca wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:08 am

I'm hoping the revelation of Alex's sexuality didn't destroy his friendship with Marie, but if he's still with Eloise and Nadine I think he can live with that.
To be fair, it's like they were a couple and she hasn't told him how s he really feels.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Orangedragan » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:19 pm

Man, imagine how interesting it would be to actually see this all happen instead of just being told about it
I'm Irish, and I just wanted my sig to have this shamrock smiley in it. %%-

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Cortez » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:05 pm

Yeah, it really feels like we've missed out.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Storm-forge mystique » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:28 pm

OllieOrOlly wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:57 am
So, Alex was kept as the psycho pair's little f**kboy? Not great; raises further questions about whether he discovered Eloise's true gender, or was kept in the dark about that momentary dual identity (one could argue, "he has sex with two hot chicks, so who cares!" but being gaslit multiple times and overloaded with sensory experience, even pleasure, could do more harm than good to his mind at least).
Again, keep in mind that this is the guy who twice in one night had sex with someone while on a date with someone else. If he wants better, which he doesn't, he doesn't deserve it.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Spidrift » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:37 pm

Well, it’s not excusing it, but he is a teenage boy — and not one who’s used to thinking of himself as a chick magnet. Raging hormones combined with unexpected opportunities can have predictably dubious results.
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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Gotoh » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:44 pm

Cortez wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:30 am
You can't just link to random strips use that as an argument. Especially that one, which isn't evidence of anything.

And clearly doesn't, otherwise she would have fired Cammi the first time.
There's nothing "random" about that strip. It's a sore spot for Zoé, which we saw when Cammi flat-out asked her if she'd be okay with letting her have another roll in the hay with her ex-hubby. Zoé gave Cammi the silent treatment, then finally pulled her ripcord to shut her up.

If you want further proof, there's also this strip, not to mention, that Zoé and Dom have a history of hate f***ing. And, as both links show, Zoé doesn't like sharing.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by testlyric » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:51 pm

Opus the Poet wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:03 am
According to Google the age of consent in France is 15, which makes Alex fair game for anyone else that old or older.
My 2cents, as someone who studied French Penal Law...


The age of sexual majority or legal age of sexual adulthood in France, as in, the youngest age a minor can be to have sex with a legal adult (18yo+) without the adult committing a crime (atteinte sexuelle sur mineur, up to 7 years of prison) is 15.


The age of consent, as in, the lowest age at which the consent of a minor can be admitted in a court of law, is... well basically 0, since there are none. The ability of a minor to consent has to be determined on a case-by-case basis by experts.
There is currently no age where the lack of consent is automatically assumed: the accusation has to prove there was violence, threat, blackmail or surprise.
If there was indeed proven coercion, the crime is rape on a minor (20 years). If no coercion can be proven, then it's only atteinte sexuelle sur mineur (7 years).

But politicians right now are actually discussing about setting a new age of consent at 13.
This is because of a recent case of a 11 year old girl accusing an adult of rape, where the judge asked the expert if the alleged victim was able to consent... and the expert answered that she actually was. Meaning, because of lack of proof of any threat or violence, the 28 years old adult was only charged with atteinte sexuelle on a minor. The victim appealed the verdict, so I'm pretty sure it's going to be reconsidered, but we'll see.


Anyway, even though Alex is 15, realistically, there would be lots of legal difficulties for 2 adult women to have a threesome with him without the approval or knowledge of his parents or tutors.

- inviting him to their home without his parents' approval or knowledge would be "removal of a minor from parental authority" (5 years)
- specifically, inviting him to a location for the purpose of group sex, with the minor either watching or participating, would be "corruption of a minor" (5 years, or 7 years if they invited him through Internet).
So yeah, regular sex with a minor is OK, but a threesome is a crime, for some reason...


Also the girl on the right, who's apparently taking a snapshot of the threesome, is creating and possessing child pornography (5 years).
If prosecuted and found guilty, she would be registered as a sexual offender on minors forever, even though she was a minor herself at the time.


So... yeah... lots of illegal stuff is happening in that last frame...

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Cortez » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:33 pm

Yeah, a lot of these characters have committed several crimes at this point.
Gotoh wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:44 pm


There's nothing "random" about that strip.
It is random and it was just a strip of Zoe being annoyed with Cammi, which isn't new. Another thing that strip didn't have was Zoe telling Cammi "No".
Spidrift wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:37 pm
Well, it’s not excusing it, but he is a teenage boy — and not one who’s used to thinking of himself as a chick magnet. Raging hormones combined with unexpected opportunities can have predictably dubious results.
To be fair to him, he is single and he's not cheating. He's also not aware that Marie is into him.

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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Spidrift » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:48 pm

testlyric wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:51 pm
Anyway, even though Alex is 15, realistically, there would be lots of legal difficulties for 2 adult women to have a threesome with him without the approval or knowledge of his parents or tutors.
Actually, I’d guess more like 16-17, though it’s never been made clear. I don’t know if that makes any difference.
Also the girl on the right, who's apparently taking a snapshot of the threesome, is creating and possessing child pornography (5 years).
That’s Penelope. I kind of read that as she had the phone out because kids today have always got their bloody phones out, and she might or might not have snagged a picture (she seems to be the type). But I’m not sure what the implication was meant to be.
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Re: 2018-08-31 Didn't see eye to eye

Post by Gotoh » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:09 pm

Spidrift wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:48 pm
That’s Penelope. I kind of read that as she had the phone out because kids today have always got their bloody phones out, and she might or might not have snagged a picture (she seems to be the type). But I’m not sure what the implication was meant to be.
Judging from her expression, she's likely thinking: "The guys at school are never gonna believe this!" so she's snapping a pic for proof.

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