2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by Gotoh » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:01 pm

LegendaryKroc wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:03 am
Well, this is a surprise twist and no mistake. Where'd they get this from, eh? Is Sandra's return to Montreal necessary to the wrap-up of MA3, or is this the writer just throwing his hands up and saying, "Screw it! I don't know how to resolve all the hanging plot threads in this side comic! Let's just torch the thing and bring Sandra back to the main series!" perhaps?
It seems pretty obvious that it's some sort of ruse that's meant to throw a scare into Sandra by showing her what she stands to lose if she walks away from the agency. She'll have to decide if she can truly be happy going back to the humdrum of her old life as a waitress, or if she's willing to abide by Zoé's law in order to continue to enjoy the glamour and glitz she's starting to take for granted.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by cheshire86 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:17 pm

Abrupt! If the cameos in the last panel are foreshadowing, it looks like Sandra's next career could involve the porn industry.

That, or the spinoff is about to spin up... "Marie: Achievement Unlocked!" ;;)

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by dmra » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:56 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:01 pm
It seems pretty obvious that it's some sort of ruse that's meant to throw a scare into Sandra by showing her what she stands to lose if she walks away from the agency. She'll have to decide if she can truly be happy going back to the humdrum of her old life as a waitress, or if she's willing to abide by Zoé's law in order to continue to enjoy the glamour and glitz she's starting to take for granted.
Except Sandra was talking about Marie's success and maybe leaving the agency to be more like her when she was chloroformed. There's absolutely nothing stopping Sandra giving Marie a call and asking her who was getting the work and could Marie introduce Sandra to them.

Besides if they were going to try to scare Sandra into cooperating surely it would be easier to warn her to her face that it was going to happen rather than drugging her, assaulting her and kidnapping her. You know calling her bluff rather than committing serious crimes in a number of countries.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by LarsenSan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:06 pm

vampire hunter D wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:15 am

Considering the rushed way MC was ended, I think that may be what they're doing
Oh yeah, the ending of MC (and EC was kind of rushed too). Was there ever an explanation for it?

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by Gotoh » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:11 pm

@LarenSan: According to Giz, it was was because EC and MC weren't as popular as the Má3-verse comics.
dmra wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:56 pm
Except Sandra was talking about Marie's success and maybe leaving the agency to be more like her when she was chloroformed. There's absolutely nothing stopping Sandra giving Marie a call and asking her who was getting the work and could Marie introduce Sandra to them.
If this were the *EC/MC-verse I'd agree, but common logic rarely applies to the Má3-verse. Almost everything they do is nonsensical for the sake of comedy.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by dmra » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:17 pm

The problem is while the nonsensical can be funny there's not much intrinsically hilarious about somebody being chloroformed or waking up in Montreal rather than Paris. A bit more focus on the funny and a bit less on the nonsense could do the strip the world of good.

If it wasn't for the quality of the art work there wouldn't have been much to enjoy in the last couple of comics.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by Spidrift » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:05 pm

And here we see the drawback of a comic which puts a comedy punchline on 80% of its strips. When the writer skips that for the sake of building an extended joke or a bit of actual narrative, they get accused of not being funny any more...
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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by dmra » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:01 pm

I've not usually complained in the past when the humour has given way to narrative for a time. Often I'd prefer to see more of it - like the introduction of Peggy's ex in ma3. If you're going to introduce a plot line involving secret agents and assassins then it could probably do with more than a couple of pages to do it justice - or at least to have some kind of after effects shown.

But what narrative are we really seeing here? A modelling agency that rather than try to talk to unhappy employee or fire them, drugs them, kidnaps them to fly them half way around the world and leave them alone in their old flat -which is miraculously empty - when all that disgruntled employee has to do is pick up the phone to call a friend back in France to see about getting another job. Or pick up the phone and threaten to go to the police if the agency don't meet their every demand.

That's simply nonsensical in the bad sense of the word.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by christopheftw » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:48 pm

You can’t impose your bougie middle class values on the cut throat world of Parisian fashion modeling.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by christopheftw » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:49 pm

Also, this can’t wrap up without some Alex/Christophe action.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by dmra » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:05 pm

christopheftw wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:48 pm
You can’t impose your bougie middle class values on the cut throat world of Parisian fashion modeling.
The fashion industry hasn't always exactly set the moral bar at a high mark but I'm pretty sure even the Parisian world of fashion might find this lots antics a bit much. And even if they don't you'd hope that Sandra might have some kind of backbone, intelligence and self respect and not go back to work for a bunch of people who treated her like that.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by Gotoh » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:40 pm

@dmra: I suspect she might initially feel she's better off not having to put up with Zoé's demands and Tatiana's bullying (out of pride). But since the narrative seems set to prove Zoé's way correct, I won't be surprised if/when Sandra realizes she can no longer be satisfied with her old life and has to re-submit to Zoé - no questions asked.

At least, that's the impression I'm getting.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by dmra » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:14 pm

Possibly except Sandra knows that Marie is getting modelling work and seems to be doing OK with her agent so why not simply get in touch with them? We know it's Eva who would jump at the chance to poach Sandra which Sandra doesn't know but even Sandra at her most scatter brained could hardly forget that she raised the subject of Marie's career and how successful it seemed to be.

So for her to simply go grovelling back to Zoe as things stands seems out of character. If she hadn't been drugged kidnapped etc then I could see that she might have flounced out and then had second thoughts but after all that she'd need to have major Stockholm Syndrome to meekly go back without at least exploring her other options.

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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by rogermart » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:06 pm

But we know that they drugged/kidnapped her. She doesn't know.

She still thinks that this is the result of her drinking, and why wouldn't she, she was drunk when she went to Brazil with Senna, when she slept in Alex's room, and of course, her drunkness (and Lavali) went with Domenico to do "nakies" on an island and when she woke up and fell to the water she said "Not again", so for her to think that this was once again result of her drinking is now a normal thought.

Let's see now if she remembers what really happened.
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Re: 2018-07-24 Wait! Yes it is!!

Post by Spidrift » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:31 pm

christopheftw wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:49 pm
Also, this can’t wrap up without some Alex/Christophe action.
Honestly, after the Magick Chicks ending — wanna bet?
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