2015-05-05 A hippie phase

[wiseguy]

as I said and implied, some drunks are insensitive directly(they lose self restrain when drunk), and others are not intentionally insensitive or not really insensitive

in the case of Sandra(just her, not all drunks), it is pretty much like a kid who is 4 years old, and is Anglo-Saxon, and his mom tells him "you have a new friend? and I see he is black" and he goes by "real facts" and tells his mom "what you mean he is black? he is brown" or he hears his dad "the motor of my car has 200 horsepower" and he rushes to the car to see if he can find the 200 horses inside the motor

[Spidrift]

I'd have thought that the thing to pull Sandra up for was drunkenly grabbing someone's face and yelling into it. That's just rude. Whether saying "I don't see it" to a vague line about something "revealing your soul" is culturally insensitive, simply truthful, or just too literal-minded, seems secondary to that.

("Racist", though? Nah. I'm sure that one could find plenty of ethnic-Indian people who'd consider that line silly - a few million Muslims, for a start - and not a few white New Agers who'd lap it up.)

[Don Alexander]

Except you keep failing to understand that the situations aren't the same, especially because of the color of her skin. Are you really incapable of understanding how different her life experience would be from a privileged white person?

You know, unless Eisu decides to reveal to us a heart-breaking background story, I'm going to assume Aaina has all the same privileges as her other beautiful, lesbian, well-dressed, can-afford-to-go-clubbing lighter-skinned friends she is hanging out with.

[Cortez]

That's not quite how privilege works though, notherwise the type i'm talking about. Background has nothing to do with it.

[Spidrift]

And that's exactly why some people have so much trouble with it. The idea that, say, Barack Obama has less "privilege" than Joe Schmoe the homeless white guy is a little challenging.

(The idea that black people in general have less "privilege" than white people in general is more obviously reasonable. But generalities always end up being applied to specifics, as here.)

[JoybuzzerX]

Except you keep failing to understand that the situations aren't the same, especially because of the color of her skin. Are you really incapable of understanding how different her life experience would be from a privileged white person?

Especially the name thing, if you know anything about history and imperalism, you'd know how it's not remotely the same.

And being drunk doesn't mean that Sandra wasn't being insensitive. Her intentions may have not been malicious, but they were certainly insensitive.

Seriously, how is her being drunk make it not insensitive? You think drunk people never say anything insensitive?

Well let's see how much you just got wrong there. White means privledged? Yeah. I'm sure that's exactly what poor white people feel, "I'm white, so all my life has been a privledge." All those white people in America, Russia, where ever sure are living it up.

And still disagree. If someone says "You can see my soul in this bead." and I don't see it, a comment will be made. It may not be a comment like Sandra's, but it'll be a comment along the lines of "I don't see it, how do I see it?" That said, I'm glad you are in no way ever challenging to anyone's beliefs and hope you go on being very supportive of all religions/cults out there and believe they should all be considered okay. You sound like a very nice person Even baring the throwing around the racist card when someone disagrees (it was a religion disagreement, so it's not racist...religion isn't a race btw )

[Artemisia]

Have you ever walked into a conversation, known how to explain it all to everyone, and decided it wasn't worth it to get involved?

[Maechris]

Simply put, these days it is far too easy to get into the trap of becoming either overly sensitive or completely insensitive to issues based on someone's ethnicity or gender, orientation and identification. It appears the only two stances in terms of gender-related issues are complete overglorification or complete insensitivity and condemnation, and there are not many more options wheb it comes to race (virtual racism, treating everyone equally but coming off as insensitive, or treating people of non-caucasian ethnicities like they've been crucified).

Of course, these specific views differ from country to country. It is easy to forget someone might've been underpriviledged when they are overpriviledged in terms of not losing work when a company needs to make cuts (seriously, just being a woman, a non-white, on a non-heterosexual can make it harder to get fired). I would probably forget it myself if a relative of mine wasn't as intolerant as they are, reminding me racism and such still exist.

One way or another :
-Sandra is being silly and coming off as insensitive.
- The person in question does not seem offended.
- If LAvali was an overjaded male, we would be going "A moment of silence for our brother in the friendzone" now. (Well, for the newest strip, not this one.)

[Cortez]

White means privledged?

It's called white privilege for a reason, so yeah. White people(especially straight white men) get certain privileges because of the color of their skin, rich or poor.


Also, the reason "not believing in god" isn't a good comparison for this situation is that it isn't singling out any particular culture or tradition. Since obviously they are not making exceptions with other religions.

[JoybuzzerX]

White means privledged?

It's called white privilege for a reason, so yeah. White people(especially straight white men) get certain privileges because of the color of their skin, rich or poor.

So, you, who calls people (seemingly at the drop of a hat) racist, want to use a term that says ALL whites are oppressive and privileged and have everything handed to them. Irony is the right term for that, correct? Hypocritical maybe? Is berating people with a term like that, the best way to bring people together? I don't know. Insulting and lying about individuals tends to be the sort of thing that doesn't bring people together in my experience, but I could totally be wrong on that and it is the best way to bring the people together! <3 You're awesome Cortez! Who knew you could learn something on a forum dedicated to a comic about an aspiring model!

[LegendaryKroc]

Gah! Will you people give it a rest, already?! It's like being stuck at the centre of a cyclone full of pointless accusations and circular arguments...

[TheDude]

"Privilege" is a sociological concept see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privile ... nequality) for an introduction.
As such it should not be confused with the everyday meaning of the word privilege.

[wiseguy]

Gah! Will you people give it a rest, already?! It's like being stuck at the centre of a cyclone full of pointless accusations and circular arguments...

that is why I hate for the most part "conceptual differences" that are taken as facts for EVERYONE and people who make a crime out of something between 2 people who do not have a problem with it (like 2 childhood friends who call each other names for fun, and someone else overhears them.......... and than calls one of them a bully for calling the other sissy even if the 2 actual parties do not see it at all as bullying)

[vampire hunter D]

Gah! Will you people give it a rest, already?! It's like being stuck at the centre of a cyclone full of pointless accusations and circular arguments...

Oh, you must be new here. Welcome to the forum.

[LegendaryKroc]

So it's a common occurence then?

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