2015-04-17 No woman is that gay

[vampire hunter D]

Eva may be gay or bi. Notice, she didn't have to think for long to come up with a place to send them. If it turns out to really be a lesbian bar (and not a regular club she's setting a trap at), that would indicate Eva knows it well, and indicate she patronizes it

[Cortez]

Or she has friends who frequent the bar.

[Spidrift]

Eva rates herself as being on a par with Zoé, and equipped to threaten Zoé's protege. I guess she knows the Paris trendy scene pretty well.

[boredsilly]

Hope they're sent to a decent bar and not some scary dive bar in a bad part of town.

[wi1dfire]

In some cases, gay men may not be adverse to women being at a gay bar if the women are straight and there with a gay friend. I never said any of this made a lick of sense.

To add to this, at "clubbier" gay clubs, or clubs that see themselves as dance clubs, the female to male ratio can sometimes be 50/50. On 18 and over nights (as opposed to 21+), the ratio can be even higher, and there will be straight guys that don't mind gay guys checking them out in the mix as well. I find I'm MUCH more likely to find myself dancing with a woman than a man at such places. On the other end of the spectrum, at strip clubs or bars or basically anywhere where the sex aspect is played up and marketed, it's not uncommon to find women barred completely, even among the staff for the night.

[Badman!]

Despite being lumped into the same umbrella group, lesbians and gays don't really get along very well...both don't like bisexuals too much...and trans people are often seen as pariahs...

Bummer...

Especially if you are a lesbian trans woman who has a HUGE problem with phallophobia (thus making it hard to date pre/non-op trans women).

Seriously...

I don't know if you want to make a joke to make my moral rising again, if your talking seriously or worse, If you're talking seriously about you. (Which would be a huge downer...)

So forgivce me if I'm wrong, but I'll take the optimistic road and pick the first choice, assuming you seems to be a great people anyway.

[Bambikles]

Unfortunately, Arte is a lesbian transwoman with a huge phallophobia problem.
Now, hugs for everyone ! It can do no harm I guess.

[JoybuzzerX]

Bummer...

Especially if you are a lesbian trans woman who has a HUGE problem with phallophobia (thus making it hard to date pre/non-op trans women).

Seriously...

I don't know if you want to make a joke to make my moral rising again, if your talking seriously or worse, If you're talking seriously about you. (Which would be a huge downer...)

So forgivce me if I'm wrong, but I'll take the optimistic road and pick the first choice, assuming you seems to be a great people anyway.

What? Arte being honest. For all the talk of acceptance, it's not seen and can be hard on a trans or bi person. Plenty of straight/gay women don't see transwomen as women let alone a lesbian.

[wiseguy]

and lot of people see guys who like trans women but not men as gay even thought those guys see the trans women as women who just happen to have an extra item

[Artemisia]

Especially if you are a lesbian trans woman who has a HUGE problem with phallophobia (thus making it hard to date pre/non-op trans women).

Seriously...

I don't know if you want to make a joke to make my moral rising again, if your talking seriously or worse, If you're talking seriously about you. (Which would be a huge downer...)

So forgivce me if I'm wrong, but I'll take the optimistic road and pick the first choice, assuming you seems to be a great people anyway.

What? Arte being honest. For all the talk of acceptance, it's not seen and can be hard on a trans or bi person. Plenty of straight/gay women don't see transwomen as women let alone a lesbian.

Unfortunately, I'm being incredibly honest and serious.

[JoybuzzerX]

What? Arte being honest. For all the talk of acceptance, it's not seen and can be hard on a trans or bi person. Plenty of straight/gay women don't see transwomen as women let alone a lesbian.

Unfortunately, I'm being incredibly honest and serious.

I know you are. :/

[Badman!]

Unfortunately, I'm being incredibly honest and serious.

Oh... ok,

I'm a very tolerant romantic heterosexual guy with a little fetish for long black haired girl... everybody's wear his cross, I guess...

Wish the better for you.

[wm247]

Natacha's, eh? Will Cammi or Eloise/Nadine be there?

When I think about it, it will be very interesting if Eva ends up having Eloise as her protegee. So, instead of open warfare between Zoe vs Eva, we will see proxy protegee war between Sandra vs Eloise.

In a very completely unrelated point, I wonder if someday Pierre decides to introduce Sandra to Eloise for 'the first time'. Another crushing handshake panel, everyone?