2014-10-07 Poison Apples

[wiseguy]

Macnut?

Alex and Sandra have met

http://www.sandraontherocks.com/strips- ... irl_gamers

[Spidrift]

...(has Sandra even met Alex btw?)...

Briefly. He had a hard time getting a word in edgeways. Marie was geeking out a tiny bit.

[Gotoh]

For all that, Sandra barely even knows that Alex exists (has Sandra even met Alex btw?). Learning of Alex's one-sided obsession with Sandra with won't carry the same kick-in-the-tender-parts to Eloise as learning that Sandra is actually banging the guy, namely Pierre, that Eloise has deep "forbidden love" for - but has apparently never made her feelings known to in any form or fashion.

Whether or not Alex is banging Sandra is beside the point: the fact would still remain that he he's largely responsible for the how and why Sandra's name/face wound up on the map, as it were. Plus, he's already crushing on her and has the proof of the attraction on his wall and his computer, where anyone can find it.

Speaking of which: look at what was written on his computer screen in the last panel, 'cuz Eloise was asking the exact same question. Also note the parallel: Alex is obsessed with Sandra, while Eloise is becoming obsessed with her - albeit, for different reasons.

• 1. So if Pierre's the cousin, all we'd get is: he's banging the girl Eloise can't stand.

• 2. Whereas with Alex it'd be: her cousin blogs about Sandra, helped make her famous, has a crush on her, and has pictures of her on his wall. Simply put: his whole life (or significant chunk of it) is wrapped up in Sandra.

Which one of those do you think would drive Eloise more?

[themacnut]

I think either one could be equally infuriating, personally. You've made a good argument for why Eloise's crush could be Alex, but Pierre is also still in the running in my mind, due to the reasons I've already mentioned. I suppose we'll find out who it is in a couple more strips.

[JoybuzzerX]

For all that, Sandra barely even knows that Alex exists (has Sandra even met Alex btw?). Learning of Alex's one-sided obsession with Sandra with won't carry the same kick-in-the-tender-parts to Eloise as learning that Sandra is actually banging the guy, namely Pierre, that Eloise has deep "forbidden love" for - but has apparently never made her feelings known to in any form or fashion.

Whether or not Alex is banging Sandra is beside the point: the fact would still remain that he he's largely responsible for the how and why Sandra's name/face wound the map, as it were. Plus, he's already crushing on her and the has the proof of the attraction on his wall and his computer, where anyone can find it.

Speaking of which: look at what was written on his computer screen in the last panel, 'cuz Eloise was asking the exact same question. Also note the parallel: Alex is obsessed with Sandra, while Eloise is becoming obsessed with her - albeit, for different reasons.

• 1. So if Pierr's the cousin, all we'd get is: he's banging the girl Eloise can't stand.

• 2. Wheras with Alex it'd be: her cousin blogs about Sandra, helped make her famous, has a crush on her, and has pictures of her on his wall. Simply put: his whole life (or significant chunk of it) is wrapped up in Sandra.

Which one of those do you think would drive Eloise more?

But Marie wants to be with Alex, so Sandra would never try to be with Alex.

[Gotoh]

@JoybuzzerX: The only one who knows about that, is Marie, since she hasn't told anyone yet.

I'm not saying Sandra would ever be interested in getting with Alex. We know she's older than he is and that she's already seeing someone. I was just pointing out that, if Alex turns out to be Eloise's cousin, that it'd drive her even further up the wall to find out he's so wrapped up in Sandra - even if it is one-sided,

[Don Alexander]

I can't imagine Eloise being into a geeky guy like Alex.

Pierre, on the other hand, is "the most gorgeous slice of mancake" Sandra has ever seen, and Sandra likely has a quite pedestrian taste in guys.

[Spidrift]

If Elose is anywhere near Alex's age, she's racked up an apparently significant number of casting couch scores rather frighteningly young. He's still at the "misses clear hints from Marie" stage; she's apparently boning a good chunk of the Parisian fashion business. This would slip right into downright queasy territory for me, if she was a teenager in the Alex age range.

Also, Alex speaks English as, apparently, his first language; Eloise seems to be francophone.

No, I reckon that she and Nadine are being set up as the complication which the Sandra-Pierre relationship has previously lacked.

[Gotoh]

I can't imagine Eloise being into a geeky guy like Alex.

People could say the same about Amber, Yuki, Didi, and a bunch of porn stars (according to the "Memetic Sex God" entry at TV Tropes) all wanting a guy like Gary. Yet, all of them do... and Yuki and Amber both had an interest in him before learning about the SGR.

And in 'Vampire Cheerleaders', Leonard once spent the night banging all five members of the "A Squad". And he's not only a geek, he was a freshman, while the "A Squad" were all seniors.

I don't see why Alex's chances would be any worse than either of theirs.

[vampire hunter D]

Wasnt Leonard a Jr? Hes the same age as Heather (who was only a year behind the Vamp Squad)

[wiseguy]

interesting

Alex place would hit Eloise in "the mind" of hers

Pierre would be reality, but only way it might hit her is if she sees Sandra leave the bakery right after he and Sandra had so much fun


BUT

Eloise has known her cousin for a long time(as kids), Marie has known Alex for a long time (as kids), obviously Lavali has known Alex for a long time

if it's Alex, Eloise knows Lavali, Alex and Marie for a long time, as kids, and would know Alex lives with Marie, and would know(it is a girl thing) that Marie had always a crush on Alex even thought she has not told straight out to Alex, we only saw she tried indirectly to tell him that, but he took it as "she liked winning all the time in wrestling, she hates being pinned"

I can't imagine Eloise being into a geeky guy like Alex.

People could say the same about Amber, Yuki, Didi, and a bunch of porn stars (according to the "Memetic Sex God" entry at TV Tropes) all wanting a guy like Gary. Yet, all of them do... and Yuki and Amber both had an interest in him before learning about the SGR.

And in 'Vampire Cheerleaders', Leonard once spent the night banging all five members of the "A Squad". And he's not only a geek, he was a freshman, while the "A Squad" were all seniors.

I don't see why Alex's chances would be any worse than either of theirs.

you meant Kiley?

Amber knew about SGR through Dillon, and at that time she met him(and he thought she was Dillon) he had not even tried the SGR in a girls privates, as far as he knew, it was just a kiss technique

people who wanted to be with Gary without knowing about the SGR

Yuki, Kiley, Sandra, Senna, Didi(initially wanted to be with him because he had Star power, and found out he was virgin, and later on when she heard Kiley, thought he got Kiley excited through his star power, not by his tongue) and Sonya(and technically we have to include Dillon)

people who knew about SGR before meeting him(or haven't formally met him yet)

Amber, Peggy(Sonya told Peggy that he is good going down south, but did not show her a pic, so in the concert, they saw each other, but did not introduce themselves), Channele and the Famished five

Zii is another matter

never had interest in him, but hinted she might be willing if he learned "the ropes"; and now she is wondering the possibility of giving him a chance as she hears how many people around her keep saying how wonderful he is with his SGR

[Gotoh]

Eloise has known her cousin for a long time(as kids), Marie has known Alex for a long time (as kids), obviously Lavali has known Alex for a long time

if it's Alex, Eloise knows Lavali, Alex and Marie for a long time, as kids, and would know Alex lives with Marie, and would know(it is a girl thing) that Marie had always a crush on Alex even thought she has not told straight out to Alex.[/url]

Marie hasn't always had a crush on him, that was something she discovered only recently. So if Marie didn't develop those feelings for Alex until that moment, how would Eloise have known about it?

Also, growing up with someone doesn't mean you know everything about them; especially when they've grown up in different households. So there's nothing saying that Eloise would know who Alex was living with.

Wasn't Leonard a Jr? Hes the same age as Heather (who was only a year behind the vamp squad).

Oh yeah... I fogot he and Heather were the same age. I keep thinking he's the same age as Katie, 'cuz she was a freshman at the time Steph made her ask Leonard to the prom.

[Schmorgluck]

For what it's worth, I can provide my bits of insight reguarding French law and incest. IANAL but I'm an educated French layman who happens to have watched how laws have been recently (like in 2011 or 2012) modified on that matter. To put it short, prior to those modifications, the word "incest" didn't appear in French criminal law. During the parliamentary debates it's been suggested to have the word "incest" used, but unless I missed an episode it's been rejected. Incest in itself is not forbidden by French law, and the word isn't used in the existing statutes. The concept of incest is taken into account, but only as an aggravating circumstance in cases of rape and sexual assault. And ultimately the most of what the recent changes in law achieved, was taking into account the evolution of society and familial cells, and extending aggravating circumstances for rape and sexual assault to step-relatives.

Basically, even siblings can have sex without it being a criminal offense, because nothing in the statutes states so. However, siblinghood as well as various familial (and/or authority) relationships are considered aggravating circumstance in cases of rape. But they have no bearing in characterizing rape.

I don't quite understand why so many people jumped into a debate about marriage, by the way. Sounds totally irrelevant to me.

As for Nadine's remark about Paris, Texas, Bambikles didn't say enough about it: it's the first town that would come to mind to a limitedly cultured French spoiled brat wanting to mention a US town named "Paris", because there was a movie named like that. There may be half a dozen towns in the USA named Paris, but that one comes to mind easier through pop-cultural osmosis, even to people who didn't see it (I didn't).

[Gotoh]

Yuki and Amber both had an interest in him before learning about the SGR.

you meant Kiley?

Amber knew about SGR through Dillon, and at that time she met him(and he thought she was Dillon) he had not even tried the SGR in a girls privates, as far as he knew, it was just a kiss technique.

Oh, that's right. Admittedly, my recollection of 'Má3 is spotty, since I dropped it sometime ago. These days, I just browse forum discussion on it and the page at TV Tropes.

[JoybuzzerX]

@JoybuzzerX: The only one who knows about that, is Marie, since she hasn't told anyone yet.

I'm not saying Sandra would ever be interested in getting with Alex. We know she's older than he is and that she's already seeing someone. I was just pointing out that, if Alex turns out to be Eloise's cousin, that it'd drive her even further up the wall to find out he's so wrapped up in Sandra - even if it is one-sided,

True, but I was replying to a post about why Alex would be the better choice. I think in such a storyline it would be silly to think Marie would keep it from Sandra that she's interested in Alex.

Though, Eloise having similar hair to Marie could be because her cousin hangs out with Marie.