2015-05-05 A hippie phase

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How true the old adage: sometimes, all you need is a little push. Nicely done, Sandra. ;) :p :ymapplause:

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Of course, either Lavali or Aaina could in principle find this a bit blatant and be put off by it.

(They probably won't be, this being that sort of comedy, but it's still possible.)
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Re: 2015-05-05 A hippie phase

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JoybuzzerX wrote:
dmra wrote:
JoybuzzerX wrote:Let that be a lesson to you. If someone says "It can reveal my soul" and you say "Don't see it myself" you are being culturally insensitive instead of honest and accurate!
Where if you judge somebody's name by their skin colour that's fine.

White Canadian “It's a lovely name I've just never heard an English name for somebody so.. so..

Indian Girl “Mahogany?”

White Canadian “Let's go with that”

Let that be a lesson to you that applying double standards to issues of race or culture you are being hypocriticl instead of honest and accurate.
And there's that too. Maybe they're both just bad people. :o
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Spidrift wrote:Of course, either Lavali or Aaina could in principle find this a bit blatant and be put off by it.

(They probably won't be, this being that sort of comedy, but it's still possible.)
I guess they could be put off by. But what I'm hoping for is that Lavali either calms down or gets calmed down (you know, by somebody) and starts having a conversation with this new girl, Aaina.

After all, assuming she isn't misremembering her relationship history in #195, Lavali has proven in the past to be capable of getting into intimate situations with other girls. Also, considering she had to have a relationship with Claire for them to break up, she has also proven able to start up a long-term relationship -- though I can't speculate on her ability to maintain them, which is another plate of dinner entirely. Anyway, because we know that she has had success with girls, I believe that she could, in theory, come out of this with a date, a girlfriend or something. If not, at least we'll know that it's on account of, say, something bad happening to Sandra and Lavali having to help her out, or maybe she and Aaina turning out to be a poor match, ect and not because of a long-term inability to court the same sex. (note: I am not ruling out general-purpose Lavali nervousness because, success or not, she has proven unsure of this club-type setting in the lead-up to now, and nervousness around anyone makes no discriminations)

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So, have we met Lavali's new girlfriend? Or will Sandra or Eva box-block her?
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I get the feeling Lavali lost her ex because her unwillingness to proclaim to the wide world, "I am lesbian"

remember that she thought her parents and Alex did not know
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vampire hunter D wrote:So, have we met Lavali's new girlfriend? Or will Sandra or Eva box-block her?
Or maybe, as Kroc and I have just been discussing, they'll each decide that the other seems quite nice but not quite their type. Or may be Aaina is already in a serious relationship. Or... Who knows? Reply unclear, please ask again later.
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JoybuzzerX wrote:Let that be a lesson to you. If someone says "It can reveal my soul" and you say "Don't see it myself" you are being culturally insensitive instead of honest and accurate!
That's because it is culturally insensitive. Right there you are mocking someone else's culture, that's the definition of being culturally insensitive.

It's not "Honest or accurate" it's just cruel and mean. Also, do you take everything literally?
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Get rid of all of the people who doubt my citizenship, deny me access onto flights, skip over my resume, or deflate my pay on the basis of the color of my skin or the foreignness of my name, and you can make me the butt of whatever jokes you like and I promise I won't mind. Until then, remember this: "Satire punches up, not down."
Exactly.

And it's not "double standard" since the situations aren't comparable.

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If someone tells a catholic god doesn't exist (I'm not catholic btw :p) one isn't considered being insensitive. :p So, no, saying one doesn't see something in something that is being touted as being able to see it with it, is not being insensitive. It's being honest.

Double standard is a double standard. There is no "it's different because I'm..." It's either a double standard or not.

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it can come across as "insensitive" but one has to remember that Sandra is drunk and seems that for the case of her, she takes things "literally" and she tried to "look at Aainas soul through the bindi", was not a case of her not respecting her culture

and actually one making a statement "God does not exist" to someone with faith(comes across as "you are a fool for believing in God" ), is insensitive, but not saying "I do not believe God exists" (allowing the other person the respect for him or her believing in God even if one does not agree with that)
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Spidrift wrote:
vampire hunter D wrote:So, have we met Lavali's new girlfriend? Or will Sandra or Eva box-block her?
Or maybe, as Kroc and I have just been discussing, they'll each decide that the other seems quite nice but not quite their type. Or may be Aaina is already in a serious relationship. Or... Who knows? Reply unclear, please ask again later.
And while we're discussing that, Spidrift, a whole other discussion about something completely different is taking place. :-s

Anyway, it has just as much chance of coming around or going pear-shaped at the moment. Working out which is more likely to happen requires more information.

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JoybuzzerX wrote:
Cortez wrote:
JoybuzzerX wrote:Let that be a lesson to you. If someone says "It can reveal my soul" and you say "Don't see it myself" you are being culturally insensitive instead of honest and accurate!
That's because it is culturally insensitive. Right there you are mocking someone else's culture, that's the definition of being culturally insensitive.

It's not "Honest or accurate" it's just cruel and mean. Also, do you take everything literally?
tanonev wrote:
Get rid of all of the people who doubt my citizenship, deny me access onto flights, skip over my resume, or deflate my pay on the basis of the color of my skin or the foreignness of my name, and you can make me the butt of whatever jokes you like and I promise I won't mind. Until then, remember this: "Satire punches up, not down."
Exactly.

And it's not "double standard" since the situations aren't comparable.
If someone tells a catholic god doesn't exist (I'm not catholic btw :p) one isn't considered being insensitive. :p So, no, saying one doesn't see something in something that is being touted as being able to see it with it, is not being insensitive. It's being honest.

Double standard is a double standard. There is no "it's different because I'm..." It's either a double standard or not.
No it's very clearly insensitive and racist. It's not "honest", it seems like you do not know what the word means. And it's not double standard, since the situation isn't the same.

It also seems like you don't know what literally means.Or more specifically, when someone is not being literal when speaking symbolically or metaphorically.

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It is not. She made the comment. The drunk (Sandra) looked and made a comment. That is not being insensitive. As to the religion, I really have no idea if they truly believe it or not. *shrug* I know plenty of Christians who say god can heal anyone and yet when I mention healing an amputee that seems to go out the window. :p And I know plenty of Christians believe that one quite literally. I've known Christians who believes hell really was in the center of the earth.

The double standard was towards the color of her skin and yes, the situation is the same. Whether I found it funny, blah or just was...different story. Someone mentioned how it was a double standard and I agreed. Get over it :p

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Except you keep failing to understand that the situations aren't the same, especially because of the color of her skin. Are you really incapable of understanding how different her life experience would be from a privileged white person?

Especially the name thing, if you know anything about history and imperalism, you'd know how it's not remotely the same.

And being drunk doesn't mean that Sandra wasn't being insensitive. Her intentions may have not been malicious, but they were certainly insensitive.

Seriously, how is her being drunk make it not insensitive? You think drunk people never say anything insensitive?

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