08-07-15 How horrible it is

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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Spidrift » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:40 pm

That's ... the point. Have you read the discussions here?
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Severemile » Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:58 am

Actually I was in a bit of a rush when I wrote my comment. I'm only really getting a chance to read the discussion now. Plus, I kind of really just wanted to say my piece. This whole thing with Ruby and Julian feels uncomfortable :(

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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Spidrift » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:28 am

It's more polite to determine what people are talking about before you join a conversation.
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Severemile » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:07 pm

Sorry :(

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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Don Alexander » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:47 am

Seeing as I'm pretty tired... Is panel three a flashback or a fantasy??
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by wiseguy » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:16 am

a realistic flashback? maybe exactly as shown, maybe same kind of message, but words used different, maybe same words but Kiley looked crazy with fervor for more Yaoi and less intellectual loking?
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Spidrift » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:57 am

Don Alexander wrote:Seeing as I'm pretty tired... Is panel three a flashback or a fantasy??
We've all been assuming a flashback. If it was a fantasy, it would be an incredibly feeble one, especially by Ruby's standards. (She has a whole load of yaoi comics to draw on for imagery when talking about her view of Dillon's sex life.) As a flashback, it sets up a whole new plot strand.
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by themacnut » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:29 pm

Severemile wrote: This whole thing with Ruby and Julian feels uncomfortable :(
You're not the only one who feels that way, trust me on that. Which is part of the point of this story arc; Ruby's desire to see "live" yaoi is overriding whatever consideration she's supposed to have for Dillon's feelings, and at some point she's going to have to be told exactly that.

Not sure Dillon's going to be the one to do it though. His feelings of discomfort and guilt are all tangled up with his lust for some HYT (handsome young thing). If he hadn't babysat Julian, I'm sure Dillon would be quite happy to take him to bed.
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Spidrift » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:58 pm

Dillon has tried telling Ruby about the problem, but it just hasn't sunk in. Mainly, I assume, because Dillon just doesn't have the vocabulary to explain the problem.

Just saying "Julian is just a kid!" invites the reply "No he isn't, he's a hot-as-hell 18-year-old man". Which is, well, true, so far as it goes. Somebody needs to drag Ruby aside and say that not only does Dillon not see Julian as a sex object, for good emotional reasons, but trying to "cure" Dillon of that perception, just because Ruby wants to watch the results, is messing about with people's heads for kicks, and treating them as objects. Which is bad.

Of course, that would run the risk of Ruby saying that Dillon keeps trying to "cure" herself of her own perceptions about sex...
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by themacnut » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:25 am

Spidrift wrote:Somebody needs to drag Ruby aside and say that not only does Dillon not see Julian as a sex object, for good emotional reasons, but trying to "cure" Dillon of that perception, just because Ruby wants to watch the results, is messing about with people's heads for kicks, and treating them as objects. Which is bad.
Agreed that someone needs to do this, but who? Dillon's not going to be able to do it. Amber? :)) :)) =)) =)) :)) :-j Zii? =)) =)) =))

I think at some point Dillon himself is just going to have to put his foot down and say in no uncertain terms that no, he is not doing anything sexual with Julian, and that's final. No one can rescue him from this, he's going to have to do it himself.

:-j Yeah, Julian and Dillon are so gonna bang. Then Dillon will be consumed by guilt while Ruby jills off to the recording she made of the whole encounter, her corruption complete.
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Re: 08-07-15 How horrible it is

Post by Spidrift » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:21 am

Well, Ruby recording Dillon and Julian at it, and then mentioning it to Dillon, might have the interesting consequence of sending Dillon into deep guilt flashbacks. But we have no evidence that Ruby actually jills off to anything yet... The poor kid really does need to work on the physical stress relief issue.

But you're right about no one being in a position to call Ruby out. Dillon lacks the vocabulary, Amber lacks the credibility with Ruby and probably the vocabulary too, Zii is starting from the wrong place... I guess that Andy or Ray might accidentally and innocently say something that makes her realise what she's doing. Or her own conscience might kick in; we know that she has one.

Or her cunning plan might just go south in some way that makes her review everything.
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