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I can sense it... I can feel Ruby getting roped into directing... directing with one of Amber's old colleges... in a way that brings things gloriously full circle. :ymdevil:

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I'm loving Ray's face in the last panel :D

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Looks like Ray didn't consent or even know about the footage Ruby took until just now. It also looks like he's realizing Dillon is a little more into the kissing than the acting, but I may be reading too far into things. If I am right though, I'm interested to see how Ray reacts. If I were in Ray's shoes, my biggest concern would be that I was leading Dillon on. Since we see Dillon's side of things, as a reader I have no such worries, but from Ray's perspective it would be a something to think about. He could also start thinking that Dillon was using him, as was brought up last thread, but eh. Not really a story development I'd want to see. Especially not the same week that Sandra on the Rocks is confronting a character over his creeper habits.

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X3N0-Life-Form wrote:I'm loving Ray's face in the last panel :D
It's the subtle blush in the first panel that I like.
wi1dfire wrote:Looks like Ray didn't consent or even know about the footage Ruby took until just now.
Indeed, though it's also now established that Ruby still prefers some degree of consent, at least retroactively; she's letting Ray see the pictures, and we have to assume that if Ray had screamed "No! Delete this!", she'd have done so, however, unhappily. She's not turned into Zii or Dillon yet.
wi1dfire wrote:It also looks like he's realizing Dillon is a little more into the kissing than the acting, but I may be reading too far into things.
I'm honestly not getting that, at all.
wi1dfire wrote:If I am right though, I'm interested to see how Ray reacts.
Well, so far, his reactions have been a small blush followed by a lot of enthusiasm for the idea that he looks good in these pictures. It seems that his ambition exceeds his sexual insecurities. Though he's going to be getting offers to do gay porn if he isn't careful.
wi1dfire wrote:Especially not the same week that Sandra on the Rocks is confronting a character over his creeper habits.
At risk of splitting hairs, "creeper" makes it sound like Alex is stalking Sandra, which he isn't really. His wall-shrine might be considered a little creepy, though in many ways it's 100% normal fannish behaviour, but he's not actually done anything threatening towards her. It's not his fault what she did last thing last night...

But there's one big thing that I'd query about this strip. as I understand it, the quality of movie shots is down to the lighting cameraman, not the director, to the extent that within the business, good cameramen are just about as admired as good directors. Though I guess that Amber may be praising Ruby's sense of composition...
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Spidrift wrote: But there's one big thing that I'd query about this strip. as I understand it, the quality of movie shots is down to the lighting cameraman, not the director, to the extent that within the business, good cameramen are just about as admired as good directors. Though I guess that Amber may be praising Ruby's sense of composition...

I'm not sure the section of the entertainment industry Amber has most experience of works to quite the same technical standards as the rest of it.

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Well, I hope this shuts a lot of people up.

I do wonder, though, whether it was explicitly Ruby who showed Ray the pics, of if Dillon just took the phone and went to him.

That last panel sure has to be a kick in Dillon's nads, though. I'd say that's very straight (or at least "straight side") behavior...
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It's pleasant to see Ruby and Amber interacting without acrimony for once. :)

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I do hear a sharp, defensive tone in panel 3, though...
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dmra wrote:I'm not sure the section of the entertainment industry Amber has most experience of works to quite the same technical standards as the rest of it.
Well, she's been working in straight movies for a few months now. But anyway, I imagine that the porn business still distinguishes between cameramen and directors except at the very cheap and cheerful end.
Don Alexander wrote:Well, I hope this shuts a lot of people up.
One lives in hope. Despite experience.
Don Alexander wrote:I do wonder, though, whether it was explicitly Ruby who showed Ray the pics, of if Dillon just took the phone and went to him.
At the very least, Ruby was present, didn't stop Dillon from doing that, and is showing no signs of concern or embarrassment at Ray seeing the shots. (Her tissue-thin lies in panel 3 seem to be more about concealing her interest in sexuality from Amber, which fits with her past behaviour.)
Don Alexander wrote:That last panel sure has to be a kick in Dillon's nads, though. I'd say that's very straight (or at least "straight side") behavior...
I don't see that as especially "straight" behaviour; Ray is encouraging Amber to distribute the pictures in order to promote Ray's career, and his grin is at the prospect of getting into acting. (Which will be a relief to Ruby, because her conscience is now even more in the clear than she might have hoped.) And I'm sure that Dillon understands all about the ambition to get on as an actor.

In fact, the interesting thing about Ray there is that he isn't worried about his "straight" image; apparently, he isn't worried about the idea of his friends or relations seeing him playing gay. If Dillon still has any faint hopes about his chances with Ray, this would be a very good sign; Ray doesn't have many hang-ups, really.
Bambikles wrote:It's pleasant to see Ruby and Amber interacting without acrimony for once.
When Ruby forgets that she's talking to Bloody Amber, and desperately needs advice or affirmation, she can let her guard down for a moment; remember her "first kiss" wall of text.
Don Alexander wrote:I do hear a sharp, defensive tone in panel 3, though...
Yeah, I think that's primarily about Amber, given that she's now let several other people know that she has some kind of interest in sex. She hates being laughed at or humiliated, but most of all, she hates Amber being the one who sees her weakness. It's a very standard little sibling/older sibling relationship gone badly pathological.
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Spidrift wrote:
wi1dfire wrote:Looks like Ray didn't consent or even know about the footage Ruby took until just now.
Indeed, though it's also now established that Ruby still prefers some degree of consent, at least retroactively; she's letting Ray see the pictures, and we have to assume that if Ray had screamed "No! Delete this!", she'd have done so, however, unhappily. She's not turned into Zii or Dillon yet.
Not that I think your guess is wrong, but we actually don't actually have to assume that. We also don't know how the video got into Ray's hands; it would be totally in character for Dillon to ditz out and gushingly show the video off without even thinking that Ruby might be embarrassed or Ray might be concerned. And what would she do, loudly object? Most people trapped in an embarrassing situation wouldn't, they'd try to brazen it out and pretend they don't care. Which is how I saw her acting in panel 3.

I still see this as evidence that Ruby is more concerned with appearing upstanding and morally upright without actually concerning herself with being those things, sort of like she saw nothing wrong with asking for the details of Angel's sex life, but heaven forbid someone overhear the conversation and think Ruby might be interested in that.
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wi1dfire wrote:It also looks like he's realizing Dillon is a little more into the kissing than the acting, but I may be reading too far into things.
I'm honestly not getting that, at all.
wi1dfire wrote:If I am right though, I'm interested to see how Ray reacts.
Well, so far, his reactions have been a small blush followed by a lot of enthusiasm for the idea that he looks good in these pictures. It seems that his ambition exceeds his sexual insecurities. Though he's going to be getting offers to do gay porn if he isn't careful.
Pairing these up, but the small blush juxtaposed against Dillon's heart eyes is what makes me think Ray may be buying a clue, and that he's flattered instead of panicked. I am curious though, why do you think Ray was blushing, if not due to him finally noticing how into the kissing Dillon is?
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wi1dfire wrote:Especially not the same week that Sandra on the Rocks is confronting a character over his creeper habits.
At risk of splitting hairs, "creeper" makes it sound like Alex is stalking Sandra, which he isn't really. His wall-shrine might be considered a little creepy, though in many ways it's 100% normal fannish behaviour, but he's not actually done anything threatening towards her. It's not his fault what she did last thing last night...
That IS splitting hairs, and possibly dangerously so. You don't wait for someone to start actually hitting you before you wonder if they might be dangerous when enraged. I also didn't call Alex a creeper, only that his habits are those of a creeper. We know he's mostly a huge fan of Sandra, and has convinced himself he's in love with her...and actually that's not really helping. Okay, maybe he is creepy, although not a danger. Simply a bit too overly involved in a parasocial relationship than is healthy. I will agree that her crawling into his bed was 100% not his fault, and give him about a zillion bonus points for it not even occurring to him to take advantage. Almost the entire cast of MA3 would have at least been tempted, and most would have acted on that temptation, but not him.

Really, I want to see Ray react differently than Sandra to similar circumstances (someone being creepy around them) as a contrast. It would also have a different affect on the person being creepy, which is appropriate since they are different people doing it for different reasons. Alex is dedicated to the idea of Sandra, is her biggest fan, and now is confronted with the actual living Sandra. Ruby doesn't actually care about Ray for himself, merely as a vehicle or triangulation for her own desires, so seeing someone react totally differently than she would in their place might give her something to think about.

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I just get this feeling Ruby will be directing gay porn very soon, starring Ray.

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In her heart and in her dreams, she already is.

And apparently doing well at it.

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Well I am certainly feeling vindicated by today's strip.
Don Alexander wrote:I do hear a sharp, defensive tone in panel 3, though...
It seems largely to dissuade Amber of any notion that she gets her jollies from watching men kiss.
JoybuzzerX wrote:I just get this feeling Ruby will be directing gay porn very soon, starring Ray.
Maybe for Ruby since she needs money and this is the kind of job she would certainly enjoy, but I doubt Ray would go into porn. Like Amber he wants to break into legitimate acting and while he is fine with kissing another man I do not think he is willing to have sex with one for the sake of a part. Too bad for Dillon and quite likely Nathan.

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