24-03-15 Real books
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
seeing that BOTH love to make 2 boys interact with each other, despite Zii being more sexuality start point and Ruby being emotional start point .............. they are basically left eye and right eye looking at the same thing, separate is good, but together it is more complete ;)
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
I took that as Ruby being slightly relieved that Zii did not discover her yaoi fascination and agreeing with her just to potentially avoid the subject.Spidrift wrote:Ruby really is the world's worst liar; figuring her out is no great accomplishment. And I doubt that she's going to respect Zii's opinions much more than Dillon's... Still, this is still shaping up to be an interesting conversation.
I like the way that Ruby's lack of physical vanity also means that she's immune to false modesty. She knows that she's a fine young woman, but she doesn't care.
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
Oh my, Zii's pretty cool in this one. Why can't she be more like this in Ménage à 3 ?
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
at least until Zii mentioned the buy 2, get one free deal LOLbrasca wrote:I took that as Ruby being slightly relieved that Zii did not discover her yaoi fascination and agreeing with her just to potentially avoid the subject.Spidrift wrote:Ruby really is the world's worst liar; figuring her out is no great accomplishment. And I doubt that she's going to respect Zii's opinions much more than Dillon's... Still, this is still shaping up to be an interesting conversation.
I like the way that Ruby's lack of physical vanity also means that she's immune to false modesty. She knows that she's a fine young woman, but she doesn't care.
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
A bit of that, maybe - but a lot of people would blush or preen or offer a token denial at that point, even when under pressure. Ruby mostly just shrugs. And we've seen her being comfortable in her own skin before now. When Dillon got her into those designer jeans and she started attracting male glances, she got annoyed with Dillon, but she didn't pretend that the effect was surprising. And when Amber leant her the "elegant" dress, she was concerned that it shouldn't be too flashy, but the idea of wearing a nice dress didn't freak her out.brasca wrote:I took that as Ruby being slightly relieved that Zii did not discover her yaoi fascination and agreeing with her just to potentially avoid the subject.Spidrift wrote:I like the way that Ruby's lack of physical vanity also means that she's immune to false modesty. She knows that she's a fine young woman, but she doesn't care.
She can be thrown, as when Dillon complimented her on her graceful walk, and she knows what vanity is, as when she couldn't resist showing some leg when taking a selfie. But, as she's currently written, she doesn't let her looks govern her life, and she doesn't have any kind of body image concerns. After DiDi and Kiley, that's a little bit refreshing.
Because she's one of the stars in Ménage à 3, so the stories she appears in tend to be about her getting into trouble, mostly through her own tragic flaws. Here, her job is to hold up a mirror to the resident cast.Bambikles wrote:Oh my, Zii's pretty cool in this one. Why can't she be more like this in Ménage à 3 ?
Note that she's functioning a lot like Matt did when he met Ruby; the uncontrollable sleazebag suddenly turned into a nice guy with a knowing grin, while still being the same person.
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
Zii wasn't insulted-what about anyone else who may have overheard her 'panic mode' tactic, especially anyone who saw her becoming flushed over the 'non-real' publication she was looking at?Spidrift wrote:Hey, be cool and hold back the geek paranoia. Ruby is in panic mode and trying to preserve the shell of her respectability, as usual, and she's stuck with a definition of respectability that went out of date two decades before she was born. We all know perfectly well that she doesn't actually believe what she just said herself -- and Zii hasn't bothered to feel insulted.Milkmaid79 wrote:Thank you Ruby, for insulting everyone who has ever read anything remotely illustrated.
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
I can't see Ruby talking to Zii about anything when she learns Amber and Zii have a 'friends with benefits' relationship (or does she already know and I missed it?). Ruby is too uptight and judgmental to be able to handle that idea with anything resembling maturity.FlashD81 wrote:Two things: Bravo on Zii for handling the meeting well (so far), and Ruby's reaction in the last panel
I'm hoping the situation continues to be more or less good, for Ruby's sake. It would be nice for her to have a girl she can talk to about, well anything really.
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
who knows
SO FAR, with the Yaoi thing, she decided to be a voyeur of Dillon and Ray
if she gets over the fact that Amber Amber brought the boys party situation(a lot here say it was simply, I don't want to be a perv like my sister that lead to her deciding not sex for her ............ but I think it was more of whatever the boys said, most probably asking Ruby to do the same things as the movie, whether they knew or not that Amber Amber was Amber Larose is basically irrelevant )
she either might want to observe zii with Amber, or observe 2 girls as long as one of them is not her sister
SO FAR, with the Yaoi thing, she decided to be a voyeur of Dillon and Ray
if she gets over the fact that Amber Amber brought the boys party situation(a lot here say it was simply, I don't want to be a perv like my sister that lead to her deciding not sex for her ............ but I think it was more of whatever the boys said, most probably asking Ruby to do the same things as the movie, whether they knew or not that Amber Amber was Amber Larose is basically irrelevant )
she either might want to observe zii with Amber, or observe 2 girls as long as one of them is not her sister
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What about them? They'd probably think she was a confused hypocrite, unless they guessed that she had some kind of hang-up which was making her unhappy. But they'd have been in a comic shop in the first place, so if they were older than twelve, they'd hardly be likely to worry about one random woman shooting her mouth off about how books should look.Milkmaid79 wrote:Zii wasn't insulted-what about anyone else who may have overheard her 'panic mode' tactic, especially anyone who saw her becoming flushed over the 'non-real' publication she was looking at?
(Okay, she's an attractive young woman, so I guess it might trigger some tragic geek insecurity about liking comics meaning that they'll never get a girlfriend. But this shop employs some high- grade counter candy, which should help assuage those fears.)
Ruby doesn't know about the current FWB arrangement, but she realised during the gig that Amber had had sex with Zii back during their teens - and she didn't enjoy that discovery. Obviously, she hasn't brought that up here yet; she hasn't fled screaming, but the subject may not have crossed her mind yet.Milkmaid79 wrote:I can't see Ruby talking to Zii about anything when she learns Amber and Zii have a 'friends with benefits' relationship (or does she already know and I missed it?). Ruby is too uptight and judgmental to be able to handle that idea with anything resembling maturity.
She'll probably think that Zii is part of Amber's world, and not expect much better of her than she does of Amber - but if Zii manages to turn on the charm enough, well, Ruby can put up with Amber, so she can surely be polite to someone who's polite to her. Ruby isn't totally inflexible, after all. If she does find out about that current arrangement, yes, she might be rather badly squicked - but even Zii doesn't go round boasting about her sexual arrangements to everybody, and especially not to people who've already shown themselves a bit prudish, so I doubt that'll come up during this conversation. Later in the plot, who knows?
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
I've been in that situation. My advice to Zii: DON'T
We sealed him not out of fear of what he was, but out of fear of what he could do. So much power and knowledge at his disposal...he could destroy all of existence and remake it instantaneously
With his soul and energy torn from his flesh, it took little effort to contain him. We made his prison on to a burning planet, an world unfit for life. Even when the seals are unlocked, no vessel will be there for him to take
A rift in the Cosmos mark his return
Upon his resurrection the Universe will burn
— excerpts from the Scrolls of Ancients' Time
With his soul and energy torn from his flesh, it took little effort to contain him. We made his prison on to a burning planet, an world unfit for life. Even when the seals are unlocked, no vessel will be there for him to take
A rift in the Cosmos mark his return
Upon his resurrection the Universe will burn
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
I'd like to think that Zii has at least enough class to not say "Oh, bi the way, I've been boffing your big sister lately. Do me a favor'n tell her she's great in the sack for me, will ya?"
Yet still, I live...
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
The more interesting question is what she'd say if Ruby said "I've realised that you were having sex with Amber, back when you two kept locking me out of her room".
I'm not saying that Ruby will say that, but it's just possible, if the conversation gets a bit prickly and personal.
I'm not saying that Ruby will say that, but it's just possible, if the conversation gets a bit prickly and personal.
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"Uh, yeah. And?"Spidrift wrote:The more interesting question is what she'd say if Ruby said "I've realised that you were having sex with Amber, back when you two kept locking me out of her room".
Pointless arguing is one of the three pillars upon which the Internet is built. The other two are of course cat pictures and porn.
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Okay, in itself, that wouldn't merit much more - though Zii would score points if she saw that realisation would be a little weird for a much less uptight person than Ruby, given that she was a twelve-year-old (plus or minus) hanging around the same house back then. The issue is more how much Zii will pick up about the difficulties of Ruby's relationship with Amber, past and present.
(Which brings things back round to the as-yet-unresolved question of how much Amber has said to Zii about Ruby. One would expect her to at least have said in passing "You remember my kid sister? She's shown up in town...", if not groused about Ruby taking over half her room and being quite so ratty - but Amber does over-compartmentalise, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Zii asked "Where are you staying in town, anyway?")
(Which brings things back round to the as-yet-unresolved question of how much Amber has said to Zii about Ruby. One would expect her to at least have said in passing "You remember my kid sister? She's shown up in town...", if not groused about Ruby taking over half her room and being quite so ratty - but Amber does over-compartmentalise, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Zii asked "Where are you staying in town, anyway?")
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Re: 24-03-15 Real books
maybevampire hunter D wrote:"Uh, yeah. And?"Spidrift wrote:The more interesting question is what she'd say if Ruby said "I've realised that you were having sex with Amber, back when you two kept locking me out of her room".
but Ruby can add a lil more and go "why you never invited me to play?"