03-02-15 Truly believable

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Fluffy wrote:Dillon is Amber's BFF - thus knows how she is. He isn't stupid, and isn't naive about what's about to take place behind that closed door. He's just in denial that his BFF is about to score with with boyhood crush.
Well, it may be taking a few moments more to sink in. He can act quite stupid sometimes, because of his delusions. Call that the denial in action if you like; it's six of one and half-a-dozen of the other.
Fluffy wrote:And Ruby's comment shows that she's well aware of what's about to happen (why else would she think she'll be spending the night in Dillon's bed instead of the one she shares with her sister?)
Oh, I'm sure that Ruby has understood all along, though there were probably a few seconds of "Oh good grief, are they really going to... Typical, yes, they are". Ruby reminds us that "naive and innocent" is not the same as stupid. She may sometimes be startled or shocked by what she sees, but she gets that other people do this stuff. She just doesn't feel obliged to approve or to be polite about it. And the lack of politeness is probably what will make the next few strips interesting.
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majek wrote:Well a slut never changes, hopefully Dillon and Amber make her feel very bad after this. :ymsick:
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She's over Gary. That didn't take too long. Well here's to hoping he lands that job

Crap, did I step over the line? I just read all the previous posts.
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Leaving aside how weird all the people, who after years of seeing Amber's take on sex and relationships, can't parse what just happened make me feel...

Okay, that leaves some envy of Ray. Putting that aside to.

What really impresses me is how far Ruby's come. Don't forget her reaction to a toy when she first arrived. She's not even looking out of sorts so much as flat out annoyed. That's progress.
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Amber is not Gary's girl -she kinda owes him proper sex but thats a different topic-

Amber's always has struck me as if she likes what she sees, she does sex on the first date... meeting but thats kinda understandable cause porn star background. granted everybody in this verse is very upfront about casual sex even the more respectable ones. -If anything a large chunk of the characters have commitment issues-

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Cortez wrote:
crimzontearz wrote:Sighs

So the c authors are ssetting up Zii and Gary by 1: trying to show Zii cares as more than just a friend and 2: making the fanbase dislike Amber for stomping on Gary's feelings by hooking up with a guy she just met


Lovely....
Hell of a double standard there buddy. You forget that Gary and Amber aren't a couple and that Gary flirts with other women too.

Oh, but it's bad when Amber does it. Even though she's still single.

Speaking of Amber, she doesn't know about Dillon's crush on his childhood friend either. So she shouldn't feel bad about this either.
Please do point out where I identified Amber as the culprit....?


Also, Gary is picking up a girl for his job not to sex it up with her ( that we know of) so there WOULD be a difference IF I was blaming her

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Odd Man Out wrote:What really impresses me is how far Ruby's come. Don't forget her reaction to toy when she first arrived. She's not even looking out of sorts so much as flat out annoyed. That's progress.
It was the three-person shower scene that told me that. Faced with sinking or swimming, she chose to swim. But the fun thing is, just because she can now process this stuff without barfing, doesn't mean she approves of it. That should make for some entertaining conversations, when she puts a coherent argument together.
Abraxas wrote:Amber is not Gary's girl -she kinda owes him proper sex but thats a different topic-
Funnily enough, Amber is one person who would accept the idea of someone owing somebody else a calibrated amount of sex.
Amber's always has struck me as if she likes what she sees, she does sex on the first date... meeting but thats kinda understandable cause porn star background.
The implication from Ma3 was that she got into porn because she was quite so enthusiastic about sex in the first place. (Which would probably be a horribly dumb decision in the real world, of course.) But whatever. Chicken and egg.

Her problem is that she really needs to modulate that approach a little if she wants to live in the non-porn world. Not saying that her current approach is morally wrong, or that she should hide her enthusiasm, but the fact is, most people take sex a little bit more seriously, and feel that there's supposed to be some emotional commitment involved. If you open the relationship with sex, where do you go from there? Are you saying that you and the other person have nothing else to do with each other but screw?

Case in point; Ray. He'd probably make her a pretty good boyfriend. He's hunky enough to match her fantasies, he seems like a nice guy, and he's interested in her day job. But it's not going to happen. He started with the slight problem of knowing of her primarily as a porn star, and now his mental association for her is going to be the girl who was banging his brains out within twenty minutes of their first meeting. I'm sure he'll be a gentleman about it, but it'll be hard for him to see this as more than a friends-with-benefits situation after that.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have had sex; Ray kind of needed it to reestablish his heterosexuality. But honestly, an hour of getting-to-know-you conversation first wouldn't have killed them, and would have established this as more than a one-shot fuckbuddy association.

And, of course, the only character who might be dimly aware of what Amber got wrong there is Ruby...
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I like how Dillon stays focused on the script in this one. :))

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The Omnipotent One wrote:She's over Gary. That didn't take too long. Well here's to hoping he lands that job

Crap, did I step over the line? I just read all the previous posts.
Naw, you're okay. I don't mind something like "Amber sure shifts focus quickly" or "wellp, there goes that prospect of Gary's" or whatever, and I don't think others would.

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Oh! what a tangled web we weave
When first we practise to deceive!

It is kind of amusing to see Dillon and Ruby's little web of makeout plans for Ray obliviously wreced by our happy cuddle kitten. :)

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Hey. In the end, Ray isn't used as a fantasy provider for Dillon neither for Ruby and he gets to bang a pornstar whom he's a big fan of to reassure his heterosexuality. If there's a lucky bastard here, that's him, for sure.

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TCampbell wrote:
The Omnipotent One wrote:She's over Gary. That didn't take too long. Well here's to hoping he lands that job

Crap, did I step over the line? I just read all the previous posts.
Naw, you're okay. I don't mind something like "Amber sure shifts focus quickly" or "wellp, there goes that prospect of Gary's" or whatever, and I don't think others would.
Dodged a bullet there, thanks for letting me know. I'll give you a heads up though, I normally rage on the ragers and haters, so if things get out of hand I apologize
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Spidrift wrote: Her problem is that she really needs to modulate that approach a little if she wants to live in the non-porn world. Not saying that her current approach is morally wrong, or that she should hide her enthusiasm, but the fact is, most people take sex a little bit more seriously, and feel that there's supposed to be some emotional commitment involved. If you open the relationship with sex, where do you go from there? Are you saying that you and the other person have nothing else to do with each other but screw?
It really depends on your age, really. (And, like you said, the ability to see sex as sex, and not needing emotional bonds to be able to have sex)

I'm 32 (soon to be 33), and I don't really feel I have the time to properly date someone my age, and then eventually after a proper amount of time end up in bed together. (especially that for me, with my current medical condition, it's quite important to enjoy sex while it lasts)
But even putting my medical condition (rheumatism) aside, if I would want another child... there's no time for me to date, have sex, go steady, move in together, get married, have a kid (last two not necessarily in that order) in the time we would consider normal.
If you really want to be sure, that complete process takes about 5-6 years. By that time I'm 38, my son is 17 when he gets a baby sister/brother...

So no... I start my relationships out with sex nowadays, or at least as soon as possible (second/third date), so I can get a complete picture of her as soon as possible. And I was expecting women of 28-32 would feel the same way, but apparently they don't... at least not in my vicinity.

If I was 20 again, then yeah: I would date about 3 times before I'd even kiss her, let alone get into bed with her.
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Bambikles wrote:Hey. In the end, Ray isn't used as a fantasy provider for Dillon neither for Ruby and he gets to bang a pornstar whom he's a big fan of to reassure his heterosexuality. If there's a lucky bastard here, that's him, for sure.
He's come out of this scene pretty well, certainly. He may never know that he could have had more than a quick bang with Amber (assuming I've read this right), and he might or might not consider that a loss.

If he sticks around in the comic, his interactions with Dillon may get interesting on all sorts of levels. I have a suspicion he's going to encounter Nathan at some point, and have a certain role as a gay crime-fighter dangled in front of his nose (he's got the looks for it, probably more than Dillon); of course, Dillon may then be rightly suspicious about Nathan's other intentions...
MuchachoNL wrote:It really depends on your age, really. (And, like you said, the ability to see sex as sex, and not needing emotional bonds to be able to have sex) ..
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So no... I start my relationships out with sex nowadays, or at least as soon as possible (second/third date), so I can get a complete picture of her as soon as possible.
Being, well, brisk is one thing. I mean, it's between the two people involved, but I'm sure it can work out fine. What's kind of weird and chancy is going straight to sex, without even significant small talk. That doesn't tell anyone anything about anything except the sex, and seems to imply that the relationship can never be about anything but sex.

I mean, say, Gary and Kiley could conceivably have worked okay, absent Yuki. Sure, they went to sex quite fast - but it was still after a weird but intense "getting to know you" process of a sort. Amber needs to get the hang of that bit.

There's a thought; will we, one day, see Amber complaining that neither Gary nor Ray have called her, followed by Ruby asking why she thinks that they should, followed by Amber saying of course they should, she had great sex with both of them the first time she met them - followed by... "Oh my God. Oh my God. How can I possibly know more about dating men than a porn star? I've been in this house too long!!!"

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