23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
umm a Freudian slip? Freud might have been bi? ;)
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
I hadn't heard that, but I wouldn't necessarily be surprised. Apparently he got pressured a lot to change his research because it did not match the social mores of the day.
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
Good for Dillon to stand up to that creep and tell him to buzz off.
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
he seemed to believe that in most cases, everyone has bisexual tendencies, and that both extremes were unlikely
someone completely homosexual, that would not want ever someone of opposite gender, and someone completely heterosexual, that would not at least consider being with someone of the same gender, that in most cases, those 100% homosexual had an adverse experience with the other gender, and the 100% heterosexual had an adverse experience with their own gender
he believed that almost every man and woman would find erotic and stimulating watching all forms of sex, that a "self-described heterosexual" would get hard watching 2 people of their gender being intimate with each other, and a "self-described homosexual" would get hard watching people of the other gender being intimate with each other
someone completely homosexual, that would not want ever someone of opposite gender, and someone completely heterosexual, that would not at least consider being with someone of the same gender, that in most cases, those 100% homosexual had an adverse experience with the other gender, and the 100% heterosexual had an adverse experience with their own gender
he believed that almost every man and woman would find erotic and stimulating watching all forms of sex, that a "self-described heterosexual" would get hard watching 2 people of their gender being intimate with each other, and a "self-described homosexual" would get hard watching people of the other gender being intimate with each other
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
I don't usually think of the porn industry using a casting couch, actually. Seems like more a Hollywood or Broadway thing (or, and especially, low-rent fly-by-night basically fake "producers"). The porn industry's relationship to sex (at least at the professional hardcore level "Amber-Amber" appears to have worked in) is a bit different.Spidrift wrote:As for Nathan successfully using the casting couch - I'm not sure that every character, even in these comics, would be dumb enough to fall for it. I kind of assumed that Amber had a pretty good idea what Nathan was doing all along - but she still thinks in porn industry mode, remember, so she'd just take that as read. It was only when Nathan crossed some kind of line with the twincest fantasy stuff that she really took against him.
Disclaimer: I never worked in the porn industry, and there are several different hardcore subcultures anyway. But the "casting couch" is not a porn industry creation. It's from mainstream theater and cinema, all the way.
Not that the porn stars in the Ma3-verse are particularly grounded in realism...
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
Spidrift wrote:Now - how long until Esther gets her own fan club?
I noticed the tag as well. Sure, I'll be her fan club.Odd Man Out wrote:Esther Fan Club Begin! I'm kidding, although curious to see how often her tag comes up.
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
I'm absolutely no expert on the porn industry myself, but I'm pretty sure that I've heard stories of casting couch practices there. However, the real point is that anyone in the porn industry, by definition, regards sex as business. Amber is someone who has regularly had sex in exchange for payment. Whether or not she happened to have done it with a producer before, she probably wasn't crossing any big emotional lines with Nathan.philippos42 wrote:I don't usually think of the porn industry using a casting couch, actually. Seems like more a Hollywood or Broadway thing (or, and especially, low-rent fly-by-night basically fake "producers"). The porn industry's relationship to sex (at least at the professional hardcore level "Amber-Amber" appears to have worked in) is a bit different.
Remember what she said to Dillon immediately afterwards? "Welcome to the ugly side of show business!" He looked shocked there; she looked sadly unsurprised.
Trading sex for material advantage is probably older than writing. Actually, it's probably older than speech. They don't call it "the oldest profession" for nothing. How exactly the exchange is negotiated is a detail, but I imagine that a powerful person having an office with a couch in isn't very new either.philippos42 wrote:But the "casting couch" is not a porn industry creation. It's from mainstream theater and cinema, all the way.
(Hint: look up the etymology of "divan".)
I'm pretty sure that's true.philippos42 wrote:Not that the porn stars in the Ma3-verse are particularly grounded in realism...
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
Blimey, he's been right camped up ! And now he looks like a slightly older Gary.
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
First thing I thought lokking at the panel was "Gary?!". Nathan looks way, way different than in his last appearance. Notably, he looks much younger.Zafnak wrote:someone wrote:Nathan kind of look more like Gary than I remember.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, Could be that "Gary-esque" hairstyle...
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
So Nathan returns and while he is a sleazebag he still isn't Takeru.
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
I'd chalk that up to having a different artist drawing him.FlashD81 wrote:OK, it might be just me but dose Nathan looks a little more... flamboyant than before?
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Re: 23-09-14 Sorry for not knocking
I'm now wondering if Dillon will say "Straight men don't have gay sex! Someone told me!", only to have Nathan confuse him again with a string of idiot doubletalk. Next step: Dillon telephones Ruby for clarification.
Dillon: "I need you to explain about gay sex!"
Ruby (blushing and dropping a stack of yaoi): "You should know all about that!"
Dillon: "I need you to explain about gay sex!"
Ruby (blushing and dropping a stack of yaoi): "You should know all about that!"
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