14-01-14 How to be suave

[Shouri]

New strip! http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-s ... o_be_suave

[Mr. Bee]

Even a black hole would look at Andy and say "God damn, he's dense."

[Milnoc]

LOL!

[Spiketwo89]

I'm not sure if its sweet that Andy's as inexperienced as Ruby or if its a recipe for disaster..... Aww who am i kidding , its both, lets sit back with popcorn and see how this plays out

[brasca]

At least they should stop giving him a hard time since they should realize someone this clueless probably doesn't know what his "bracelet" is.

And I don't see why they can't give him some tips on how to be suave. Jerzy used to be bisexual and I would think Dillon knows enough from acting to get by.

[MoonshadowDark]

Let's face the facts, people: Andy is not getting the second date with Ruby.

[Storm-forge mystique]

I think I've just fallen in love with Jerzy.

[Spidrift]

"It's like tinny or bronzy, but with iron in it."

I'm not sure if its sweet that Andy's as inexperienced as Ruby or if its a recipe for disaster...

I'm somehow seeing the latter. But we don't actually know why a good-looking, personable guy like Andy is so inexperienced. We have Ruby's excuse (trauma) and Gary's (geekiness), but Andy is a minor chick magnet with nice manners who clearly wouldn't mind having a girlfriend. So what's his problem?

At least they should stop giving him a hard time since they should realize someone this clueless probably doesn't know what his "bracelet" is.

The hard time may end, but they've all been ooh-shiny'd away from a line of conversation that might have involved Andy learning that Ruby isn't a porn star.

And I don't see why they can't give him some tips on how to be suave. Jerzy used to be bisexual and I would think Dillon knows enough from acting to get by.

I'm sure that Dillon thinks that he knows enough.

I don't know why, but I just can't imagine this relationship working at this point. Aside from Ruby's confused paranoia and Andy's ineptitude, the double inexperience somehow looks like a problem in a way that doesn't apply to, say, Dale and Marigold in Questionable Content. I guess that the latter pair just look like shut-ins but not idiots, and have clear shared interests; when they've worked out how to negotiate with each other, they should be quite happy sorting out the details. Ruby and Andy just seem to have a much higher mountain to climb.

I also keep seeing Andy as rather younger than Ruby, perhaps because that makes his inexperience seem less implausible. That shouldn't be a problem, but it couldn't exactly help.

[Bambikles]

Hu, good-looking Andy didn't get a girlfriend since all eternity plus he can't take sarcasm ? Enough, he can't be a good match for Ruby !
Kick him out of the strip. He's too dumb to be bearable !

[Spidrift]

The one thing to be said for "can't grasp sarcasm" is that Ruby's snappish moments could just wash over him without him noticing. We've seen Ruby snap and immediately regret it; she may need a boyfriend who doesn't let that worry him, and sheer cluelessness may be the best defence.

But Andy really does need some kind of explanation.

['J']

you know, i've really never understood that particular stereotype. why exactly are gay men presumed to have some sort of special insight into women? logically, shouldn't they know less about how to romance/seduce a lady, since they have no incentive to develop those skills?

do straight women ever ask lesbians how to pick up men?

[Spidrift]

I think that Jerzy agrees with you there. Andy is just being an idiot. (Though ironically, Jerzy does have that bisexual past.) However, the bigger cliché, which may be in the back of Andy's mind, is probably about gay men having a better grasp of the sort of style that women, aggravatingly to macho straight men, seem to want; better fashion sense, better grooming, a knack for the sort of gossipy conversation that women seem to enjoy, more style.

It's a hideous double stereotype, of both women and gay men. But all the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" stuff is built on the fact that, like most horrible clichés, it has a fragment of truth to it sometimes.

[rpr]

I'm somehow seeing the latter. But we don't actually know why a good-looking, personable guy like Andy is so inexperienced. We have Ruby's excuse (trauma) and Gary's (geekiness), but Andy is a minor chick magnet with nice manners who clearly wouldn't mind having a girlfriend. So what's his problem?

Being a bit dense? Remember http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-s ... ou_measure?

Quote fixed. The DAMNed

['J']

I think that Jerzy agrees with you there. Andy is just being an idiot. (Though ironically, Jerzy does have that bisexual past.) However, the bigger cliché, which may be in the back of Andy's mind, is probably about gay men having a better grasp of the sort of style that women, aggravatingly to macho straight men, seem to want; better fashion sense, better grooming, a knack for the sort of gossipy conversation that women seem to enjoy, more style.

It's a hideous double stereotype, of both women and gay men. But all the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" stuff is built on the fact that, like most horrible clichés, it has a fragment of truth to it sometimes.

i've always thought it would be hilarious if the 'straight guys' from that show afterward still struck out with women, but found themselves getting constantly hit on by other dudes.

[Artemisia]

you know, i've really never understood that particular stereotype. why exactly are gay men presumed to have some sort of special insight into women? logically, shouldn't they know less about how to romance/seduce a lady, since they have no incentive to develop those skills?

do straight women ever ask lesbians how to pick up men?

There is a tendency for women and gay men to hang around together in a manner akin to how women interact with each other. There is even a term for that kind of woman. Because of this, a lot of gay men supposedly learn a lot about how women think and operate. Thus, yes, it is reasonable for Andy from Maybury here to believe that gay men have some kind of special insight into women.

There are a couple of problems with this idea. The first is, yes, it sort of holds true for someone like Dillon who is a femme and hangs around with women a lot more than with men. It probably doesn't hold true for Jerzy, who is more butch and likely has more male friends.

However, the dynamic doesn't run the other direction. Lesbians, even butch lesbians, don't tend to hang around with men all the time, and most lipstick lesbians tend to edge towards being androphobic/misandric.