25-02-13 That was uncalled for

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Re: 25-02-13 That was uncalled for

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Fluffy wrote:I think I may be the only one who has a dislike for Ruby.

I don't find her cute, funny, or remotely likeable. She has done nothing but snub and judge her sister since she arrived on her threshold and bullied her way into moving in (which I'm only assuming Amber is allowing because she fears if she doesn't, Ruby will blab about Amber's porn past to their parents - which makes Ruby that much more despicable).

If she hates Amber's past so much, why doesn't the little twerp find a place of her own?
I doubt that you are the only one. It's just more proof that no-one in the Ma3verse has any backbone at all. Hell their contract might not even allow then to have guests living there.
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Dillon and Amber seem to hold the apartment more or less free and clear. Doesn't sound like there are many constraints on the lease, somehow.

As for spinelessness - look, Amber and Ruby are family. People have put up with far more stupid crap in the name of that. I find it kind of likeable of these two that they've held some kind of working relationship together despite everything.

Not that parents come across very well in the Ma3/SDB universe, do they? Aside from M. & Mme. LaRose (at best, bossy and oblivious; at worst, criminally oblivious; also, lumbered their younger daughter with the name "Ruby LaRose"), we know about Gary's (allegedly religious fanatics involved in bollixing up Gary's psyche), Yuki's (divorced, failed to do anything about her psychosis) and especially her father (bleeurgh), and Vyndicator's (adulterous, divorcing, produced Vyndicator).

It may be the sentimental Bad Machinery fan in me, but I wouldn't mind one day seeing a couple of parents in this comic who are happy together, cool (in ways that don't involve them having sex with anyone except each other), and responsible for some fairly sane offspring.
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As cute as she is, her attitude is a MAJOR turn-off [-(
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her attitude is depending on the writer's wishes

either it will be a constant
in home improvement Tim never learns not to go "power tool crazy"

or is a groundwork for her eventual development into someone different
in Happy days the Fonz became different person than what he was in his first episode

or (unlikely but possible) an out of the blue change, forgetting her roots
in "boy meets world", Eric Mathews begins the show as a suave, popular young man, who constantly dates, in contrast to Cory's dorkier image and does fairly well at school . Eric's character changes mid-series from cool elder brother to psychotic dumb elder brother, when he's made more of the comic relief.
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Adamas wrote:As cute as she is, her attitude is a MAJOR turn-off [-(
Attitude is (potentially) a variable. Cuteness is stable, at least to small perturbations.
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blue zone wrote:I patiently await Gary somehow accidently giving lil' sis a lil' swirly action. Appetite tends to run in the family, and Ruby Unleashed could be entertaining across the Ma3 Universe.
Please let this happen in a crossover arc if only to see the O-face on Ruby and the look on Amber's face when she finds out.

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Adamas wrote:As cute as she is, her attitude is a MAJOR turn-off [-(
I dunno, a woman who is more prim and proper isn't too bad. And sounds like she was the unfavorite of the family, so I feel a bit for her.

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I don't think his issue is "prim and proper" but that Ruby looks from time to time "down on Amber's choices" and tone she has toward her sister
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BioYuGi wrote:I dunno, a woman who is more prim and proper isn't too bad. And sounds like she was the unfavorite of the family, so I feel a bit for her.
Prim and proper is potentially okay; the standard male fantasy on the subject is that she'll unleash all of her pent-up passions in one go once you get her into bed, and even if that's optimistic, well, there's always the great corrupt-the-cutie challenge. However, the snag with Ruby appears to be that she's abrasive and irascible. She currently looks to be too damn much hard work, emotionally speaking, long before you get her anywhere near the bedroom.

Anyone who wanted to court her anyway would probably be well advised to try and play the sympathetic ear, without overdoing it. (She looks smart enough to see through that.) Whether or not her parents really favoured Amber, letting her rant on the subject while making sympathetic noises would probably work quite well.
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BioYuGi wrote:
Adamas wrote:As cute as she is, her attitude is a MAJOR turn-off [-(
I dunno, a woman who is more prim and proper isn't too bad. And sounds like she was the unfavorite of the family, so I feel a bit for her.
I wasn't the family favorite either, but DAMNED if I'll act like that. Simple courtesy states that you don't act in such a manner to the person who's letting you stay in their house. X(
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Part of me wonders if the contract with Nathan might not be a plot point with Ruby. Neither Dillion nor Amber strike me as the sort to have a fine eye for fine print. That the two of them are doing made for TV movies after more or less nailing down access to his works could be a sign of bad faith in the contract. The idea of Ruby tethered to a gig as their manager might prove amusing.

As for Ruby's attitude it is too early to judge. The entire situation may just have rubbed her the wrong way, yes she probably could have worked harder to reach a more palatable scenario but for whatever reason she didn't. I'll wait until we see her settled in and dealing with the odd forms of madness Amber's social circle radiates before deciding if this is temporary pissiness, stable personality trait, or circumstances exaggerating her normal temperament.

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Actually, Ruby being a business manager does sound like a fun possibility, especially if she ends up deep in the culture and maybe fitting in better than any expected...
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Anyone want to lay odds on the only job being available for her is managing a porn production company?
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Oddly, that might fit what we've seen of her personality. From the contact I've had with actors and stage managers it takes a certain kind of stick up the ass to properly herd them. The fact that it is an industry where all of Amber's contacts are and would effectively end any implicit blackmail regarding her porn past is just icing.

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Odd Man Out wrote:Part of me wonders if the contract with Nathan might not be a plot point with Ruby. Neither Dillion nor Amber strike me as the sort to have a fine eye for fine print.
Possible, certainly.
Odd Man Out wrote:That the two of them are doing made for TV movies after more or less nailing down access to his works could be a sign of bad faith in the contract.
Or a sign of Nathan's actual level in the business generally, of course. And hey, they're not doing Direct to Video!
Odd Man Out wrote:As for Ruby's attitude it is too early to judge.
As you say, a bit of spiky abrasive cynicism might not be an entirely bad thing in a business manager.
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