Re: 24-12-2014 [VC] Puzzle Bobble
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:27 am
We still don't know why Steph is helping the Mothmen. @Osaru Sensei and me both said that she looks brainwashed; we don't have to prove a thing because we are just saying that is a plausible explanation of her behaviour, we aren't claiming that we know that she's brainwashed for sure.Gotoh wrote:Since you're insisting on arguing this point, show me where the mothmen have done that to Steph.Tako wrote:That's how brainwashing works. Brainwashing neither makes people walk around like zombies or sleepwalkers nor control their bodies against their will. It changes their priorities, values, beliefs and loyalties. And if it works, the brainwashed person will believe that their new loyalties and beliefs are the rights ones and that they are freely sticking to them.
It is you who insists that she can't be brainwashed, so you should prove your claim.
Well, first, that's not brainwashing, but hypnotism and memory wiping/rewritting. Real world destructive sects don't use magic or hypnotism to brainwash people.Gotoh wrote:You mean, like this? Or would you prefer this method?Tako wrote:The victims of destructive sects don't go around saying "I would like to leave the sect, but I can't because I have been brainwashed".
Second, Mel wasn't aware that her mind was being manipulated until released, so I fail to see how those panels contradict what I said (that victims of destructive sects who are brainwashed aren't aware of having been brainwashed).