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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by ExplodingJoe » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:24 pm

cut me some slack, I'm studying calculus while trying to type XD
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Erebus » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:58 pm

BAH! I hate all the Annette haters. I don't know why. I mean, everyone does have an opinion, but it bothers me. Oh well. I do think Amy Lee is definitely better than Annette though. I think it is good that they never chose another Tarja. Either way, people are going to bitch and whine anyway. "It's not the same!" Yeah, well get over it because it's not supposed to be the same. Let's see you do better (this isn't directed to anyone here, I am just referring to some things I have heard).

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Don Alexander » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:07 am

Of course, it is patently true that bands (at least the ones that count, not talking about platic pop clone things here) make their music mostly for themselves. If they judge a change in style is what they want, then they can do that, and basically don't have to give account to the fans...

Still, I think Nightwish went from something quite unique (oft copied, never reached) to something much more generic with the new singer. And that saddened me. Though I do have the new album and definitely plan to follow them up further. I'm not saying they've gone bad, after all. ;)
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Ashahalasin » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:45 am

Piping in, that I was never a huge Nightwish fan. But I cannot stand the new girl, awful, just terrible. Soon as I heard her voice changed to a different CD. DNW.

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by MarkMoriquendi » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:04 am

not really, it's Tuomas that keeps the LADIES INTERESTED in Nightwish.
If he ever left, they'd lose most of their teeny female fanbase
ESPECIALLY now he's rockin the Goth Pirate look

anyways, I don't have a problem with Evanescence. I just don't like Annette. It's down to the whole "Tarja's voice is what defined Nightwish for me, and now it's not there, so they're not Nightwish. End of."

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by LadySheDevil » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:37 am

Tuomas is all hawt-smex-Jack-Sparrow-yumminess and all, but I'm the Emppu-Bunny, remember? ;p

But that's not really the point. I'm not going to try to change anyone's minds. I'm just thankful that nobody on here is one of those creepy Tarja-fanatics who started sending death threats to Anette when she was chosen. That's just... Scary. O_o;

On a brighter note, with their new "generic" sound, a lot of people I know have discovered them, and subsequently found their old stuff too. This gives me a happy. I love wandering around work hearing people humming "Nemo". :D
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Ashahalasin » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:55 pm

Always found Nemo to be boring and generic. I did like their Phantom of the Opera cover though.

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by MarkMoriquendi » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:58 pm

and Over The Hills And Far Away....

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Ashahalasin » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:39 pm

That was pretty tops.

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by MarkMoriquendi » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:41 pm

well I love Gary Moore, so what I can I say :D

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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by ExplodingJoe » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:22 pm

yeah, its tough. I'm nowhere near the raving Nightwish follower other are. But as someone who followed All That Remains since they were just the concept of a little Boston head-man, it will always be painful for devoted fans to watch their band evolve to reach a wider audience and lose a little of what made them sound unique.

I just content myself in knowing that the guy I used to pay 5$ to watch sing for Shadows Fall now has success and women flying at him.
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Marque'd » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:17 pm

I love Nightwish.

I also wrote a school newspaper article comparing the lead singer to Britney Spears without being tone-deaf, and now have to eat my words. I really like the newest album.

That said, I'm also an Evanescence, Epica, and (slight) within temptation fan. NEW EV ALBUM NEXT YEAR, WHOO.

Also, has anyone heard of "We are the Fallen"? If you're an Ev fan, look them up. They may cause some strange, yet familiar feelings. :ymdevil: Freaking Ben Moody. The new singer is good, but still not Lee...though they're trying. Jon LeCompt is laughable. "WE'RE EQUAL, WE'RE NOT MAKING EVANESCENCE AGAIN!"

Well, your band photos and styling say otherwise. D
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by LadySheDevil » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:47 pm

I decided not to judge Anette until I heard her live. I'm thrilled that I actually got to! (That NEVER would have happened with Tarja. God forbid if she had to play for a crowd of < 5000... [-( )

I like her live. There are some old songs that she should never, ever do (Wishmaster comes to mind... SO not for her), but mostly she does them quite well, I think.

During my shift today, I listened to DPP in its entirety. I can't imagine anyone else singing those songs. Though I think Tarja would sing Eva beautifully.
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Don Alexander » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:56 pm

I've seen Nightwish live twice at Wacken with Tarja. (yeah, that was more than 5000...) And confess to ignoring them completely when they played with Anette... /:)

Though, if I recall correctly, I went to see "Dream of an Opium Eater" instead, and THAT was a concert I'll never, ever forget!!! :x :x :x
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Re: Let's talk about music!

Post by Erebus » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:27 pm

I remember the Nightwish club gig. Good stuff. Can't believe they played "While Your Lips Are Still Red." Annette did a fantastic job of some of the older songs (Nemo comes to mind). Two bands I would love to see live are Maiden and Dream Theater. Especially Dream Theater. Also, I have a question for Don... the 12 Step Suite... what is it? I noticed that some songs like "The Glass Prison," and "Root of All Evil" have been sampled in "The Shattered Fortress." Are all these songs connected story-wise? Because that would be pretty cool. It seems like they are, but I am not too sure. They always seem to be dedicated to a Bill W. Who is that? An author? Wow... so many questions.

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