SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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Guess they changed the old formula, although in a manner that has been done similarly before, of a character not entering a room unannounced, but rather eavesdropping on sexy times; though, unlike other occurrences, this isn't an instance to create drama, but instead to give a character a sense of vindication, maybe? Or perhaps Amber is simply amused her little sister is "growing up," though it is kind of creepy she is lingering to listen; granted, it could just be for a moment.
Presumably there will either be a "comedic misunderstanding" on what Yaoi Club actually is? Perhaps not. Amber isn't that bright, but she isn't an idiot either, so she should be able to put two and two together.

Also, guess Ruby is a "magical movie virgin," who has nothing but G-spots and Andy is a natural Adonis, in spite of his coyness (hopefully, it is merely a comedic reveal, rather than suggesting that Andy is a "player" who endears himself to women through his attractiveness and seeming harmlessness).
Bit of a letdown, or perhaps bonus from a certain perspective, that Ruby's first time is relegated to off-panel. Suppose it is SDB, so it is more about showing the BL than the hetereo (though, there is a lot of BL in Mà3, too... Huh).
Already gone on longer than intend, though one more point - the fact that Ruby mentions her sister during her first time, clearly indicates that she still has deep-seated issues that probably should have been a bit more addressed before she took this leap; perhaps sex stuff and her porn star sister are inexorably linked in her mind, although - even despite the, let's say, "relaxing" of this experience - she would still normally know better not to bring up her sister to her boyfriend, let alone during intimacy!

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Re: SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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It feels right to me that Ruby’s first time is out of view of the reader.

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christopheftw wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:56 am
It feels right to me that Ruby’s first time is out of view of the reader.
As much as I’d like to see it I begrudgingly agree.

Hopefully, Amber has the wherewithal to know what’s going on and won’t barge in.

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I'm pretty sure Amber knows what's going on.

In fact, Amber probably already knows by the noises if Ruby's truly sincere or just faking it! :D

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Well, there's the condom question dealt with in a single speech bubble, before readers started throwing wobblers but without treating it as excessively important. (My head canon still has Ruby having visited a chemist's shop on the other side of the city.) And Amber is logically getting a very strange idea about what the Yaoi Club does. Though the idea of her not having even heard much mention of it before is a bit of a stretch -- well, technically, she's heard a passing mention, but even aside from that, if neither Dillon nor Zii were actually sworn to silence on the subject, one of them would surely have let something slip in passing.
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Presumably there will either be a "comedic misunderstanding" on what Yaoi Club actually is? Perhaps not. Amber isn't that bright, but she isn't an idiot either, so she should be able to put two and two together.
The problem appears to be that she doesn't even know what yaoi is. (Fair enough; comics aren't her scene.) If she did, then she'd be able to guess what the club is about.
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Also, guess Ruby is a "magical movie virgin," who has nothing but G-spots and Andy is a natural Adonis, in spite of his coyness ...
It's a bit Hollywood, but Ruby has a lot of tension to work off, has had her libido kick-started by yaoi and anticipation, will doubtless have done a bit of prior reading and will be quite willing to tell Andy when he's doing things right or wrong, and is a fully-grown woman who's reasonably physically active, so probably didn't find first penetration too painful. Meanwhile, Andy clearly has good cardiovascular health, has a combination of an athlete's self-discipline and an active but non-excessive libido, so he probably won't get carried away too quickly, is eager to please Ruby, and is an obliging sort who listens to what people tell him. So the idea of this going well isn't too hard to believe.

(And so far, it sounds like Andy is doing the work and Ruby is having the fun. But once she tells him he can relax and enjoy himself -- well, he mostly responds to tactile stimulation, and he'll be getting plenty of that at this point.)
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:21 am
Bit of a letdown, or perhaps bonus from a certain perspective, that Ruby's first time is relegated to off-panel.
I suspect, if the comic continues long enough and the plot has any need for it, that we may get one or two more strips with those two in bed together. All PG-13, doubtless, unless Giz decides to pander a little in print volume bonus strips.
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:21 am
Already gone on longer than intend, though one more point - the fact that Ruby mentions her sister during her first time, clearly indicates that she still has deep-seated issues that probably should have been a bit more addressed before she took this leap...
Nah; those issues had already screwed up her emotional life badly enough for years; better for her to relax and accept her own sexuality at this point, so when she has to deal with the Amber situation, she can do it with a clear head. But honestly, I think that the only reason she's mentioning her sister at this moment is for the sake of setting up a punchline. (Or, just possibly, as an almost self-deprecating joke; "I should have done this years ago, but there was the bloody Amber issue...") I really wouldn't read too much characterisation into it.
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:31 pm
Hopefully, Amber has the wherewithal to know what’s going on and won’t barge in.
Amber would have to be pretty damn stupid and rude to barge in on anyone at this point; it's crystal clear what's happening in that room, and even she knows that most people don't like being interrupted during sex. And she actively wants to repair her relationship with Ruby, though she doesn't have much clue how.

Whether she tries to fish around the topic in conversation later may be another question. If she wants Ruby to like her a bit more, then working with Dillon to find subtle ways to give Ruby a room to herself from time to time would be smart, but they're basically stuck with being three people in a two-room apartment (four counting Ray), so that may be mostly a matter of bundling Dillon off to Jerzy's place as often as possible.

Actually, a wrap-up for the comic might include Ruby getting a place of her own...

Talking of wrap-ups, this feels a bit like a scene ending, so we may cut back to Ma3 on Thursday. But we'll see.
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I don't think so. The caption above the strip says "we'll be running Sticky Dilly Bun's
last chapter here (as well as on SDB)"
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True enough, though the final chapter could be run in multiple parts with interruptions. Good point

Incidentally, we can also gather that the club is renting a room at the movie studio. And I’m sure that movie studio changing rooms have seen more outrageous things than this. Also, I wouldn’t read too much into it, but logically, Dillon must have hung around for several minutes after everyone else left — for the time it took Ruby and Andy to negotiate their situation and get undressed. One hopes he wasn’t eavesdropping (because he’ll now be all frustrated to have been interrupted just as things were getting interesting).
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I approve of this strip, but my only hang-up is not getting a Ruby O-face for someone's avatar. I'm glad they got the protection factor taken into account. I'm expecting Amber to stick around though, if for no other reason that to be as a look out so Ruby & Andy can have some peace while they are having their piece. I'd also expect Ruby & Andy trying to hide their shame (as it were), but Amber being the cool sister will diffuse their need to hide it.

I did not know they held the yaoi meeting at a movie studio. When did this happen? I thought it was at the comic shop. One would figure that it would be harder to get visitation passes than to just go to the shop's backroom. I know that Amber & Dillon have Nathan by the short hairs, but still.

I expect we'll finish SDB before moving back to Ma3. There might be a cameo from DIllon or Amber or Angel, I'd imagine. For instance: showing video of Zii & Angel & Yuki rocking out on video while Didi is watching. Or <insert hypothetical time skip scenario> Amber & Dillon showing up to Gary's wedding to Peggy. Ma3 began first, SDB evolved out of it. It makes sense to conclude SDB before putting Ma3 to bed.
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Logically, given that Amber already knew that Ruby was angling to goink Andy, once she’s got her breath back, Ruby can hardly hope to hide the fact that she’s done so from her sister. What she might try to do is be cool about it. “Yes, I let him. It was okay.” What she’d really hate to admit was that the experience reduced her to a moaning heap of lust. That’d be uncool and would make her look as undignified and lacking in self-control as Amber.
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By the sound of things, Ruby is a member of the Lucky 30!

(For those unaware, according to the research available it would appear only 30 percent of women experience orgasm through vaginal penetration alone.)

Also, Ruby is administrative assistant for both Dillon and Amber, is she not? That would give her access to book any room she wants at the studio.
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lordoffiling wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:43 pm
By the sound of things, Ruby is a member of the Lucky 30!

(For those unaware, according to the research available it would appear only 30 percent of women experience orgasm through vaginal penetration alone.)
Looking that up - the exact numbers seem to vary from report to report (who you ask and how you phrase the question doubtless make a huge difference), but sure, most or all women in this setting, including Ruby, seem to be more responsive to penetrative sex than the average.

However...

(1) Splitting hairs, we don't know for sure that Ruby has actually achieved orgasm. She's certainly making a lot of appreciative noises, but a lot of people of both genders get a lot of fun and excitement along the way, before they get to the climax (if they ever do). And Ruby has got a good-looking, hunky guy being really nice to her, and finally giving her what she's been fantasising about for weeks. She may just be sub-climactically excited by that.

(2) And we also don't know what exactly Andy is doing or has done to her. Most women don't achieve orgasm through penetration alone, but need clitoral stimulation. Andy may have provided some of that before he got to this stage, or still be doing so in some way.
lordoffiling wrote:
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Also, Amber is administrative assistant for both Dillon and Amber, is she not? That would give her access to book any room she wants at the studio.
As I'm sure you meant, yes, Ruby is PA to the other two, and doubtless has a working relationship with the studio admin staff. The place may well be willing to give someone they know use of a room, out of hours, for a modest fee. I think it was mentioned before that they were using the place, in fact.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure it's always been in Dillon's dressing room on the movie set. I kinda forgot about that, too, before I just randomly reread a big chunk of the comic a few days ago.

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Incidentally, if Ruby does reach orgasm, it may just be from evil pleasure -- assuming that she manages to ride Andy like a Kawasaki KZP motorcycle.
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I'm glad and surprised that Ruby is getting laid without interruption. I'm still thinking SDB is going to continue until the creative team goes on holiday break so 5 more updates to wrap everything up nice and neat.

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