SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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Re: SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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Spidrift wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:14 pm
...assuming that she manages to ride Andy like a Kawasaki KZP motorcycle.
I am assuming she will. Ruby is a woman of action & passion once she puts her mind to it. If she's lucky, Andy will be able to oblige her before he... runs out of gas as it were. Of course, that would also require her to be on top of him so the table might give way to the sofa. And even if not, she will have plenty of opportunities to have her imagination run wild as long as Andy is happy that she's happy. On top of that, she is competitive and an achiever. She just has to make sure that Andy has no reason to take his eyes off of her. Lucky stiff, that Andy.

p.s.: The image showing the update to SDB is still showing Ruby from last strip as opposed to something from this strip. Ruby looks cute so I don't mind, but heads up.
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Re: SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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The only risk is, if she (a) thinks that she's extracting evil pleasure from the process, and (b) notices that Andy seems obsessed with making her happy, to the exclusion of saying what he enjoys, she may crash down from an orgasmic high into a guilt complex. I mean, sure, "Every animal is sad after coitus except the human female and the rooster", but Ruby might manage it anyway. Andy does need to try to enjoy this for himself; sure, he doesn't respond much to visual cues (so his eyes may not be the issue), but if it's tactile stimulation he needs, he must have noticed by now that he's getting that...
worldshaking00 wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:18 pm
The image showing the update to SDB is still showing Ruby from last strip as opposed to something from this strip. Ruby looks cute so I don't mind, but heads up.
Uh -- I'm seeing a picture of Amber, from frame 1 of this strip, on all relevant links. Got a cache needs purging?
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Re: SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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It's changed now for me. Yay Amber!

As far as 'evil' pleasure goes, I expect she will 100% redefine sex and how she views it as it pertains to her involvement with it. She already sees yaoi as being a generally pure expression of love(making). I almost expect Ruby to start singing "Oh, sweet mystery of life..."
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I feel as if the condom line was just added in to appease some readers :p

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Spidrift wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:10 pm
...and is a fully-grown woman who's reasonably physically active, so probably didn't find first penetration too painful.
From what I have read in other places, discomfort during the first sexual encounter is likely due entirely (or almost entirely) to the belief that it will be painful. Apparently there is a vicious cycle/self-fulfilling prophecy going on. Girls hear that it hurts the first time, so they brace themselves for it instead of relaxing, which causes it to hurt. Then they tell this to friends who haven't done it yet, and the cycle repeats. Google vaginismus if you're not familiar with the term.

But I know of at least one woman who reports that when she first had intercourse, she had never heard that it hurt, wasn't expecting it to hurt, and it didn't hurt.

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worldshaking00 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:37 am
As far as 'evil' pleasure goes, I expect she will 100% redefine sex and how she views it as it pertains to her involvement with it. She already sees yaoi as being a generally pure expression of love(making).
Well, she kept saying so. That was pretty transparently desperate denial, and given that she’s generally capable of admitting when she’s wrong (even to Amber, though it hurts), I think she’s likely to quietly drop that specific line in future — though I’m sure that she’ll always argue that yaoi isn’t “porn” (because of the strong plots, attention to characterisation, refined art... fill in the rest from any yaoi fan’s set replies).

And she’s been revising her view of sex for a while now; again, she’s too honest to remain hypocritical for long. But I suspect she’ll hang on to the idea of “respectability”; she’ll just shift her boundaries a bit. A woman obviously can enjoy sex, but she can still say that habitual screwing around or doing it for money are beyond the pale. Which will make her seem a bit of a prude in the Ma3 universe, but not that weird in real world terms.

Plus, there’s the whole thing about Amber lying to their parents. I doubt that Ruby will call her mother to announce that she’s got a boyfriend and she’s sleeping with him, but she might say that she could admit it if she had to, whereas Amber remains dishonest at heart.
JoybuzzerX wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:41 am
I feel as if the condom line was just added in to appease some readers :p
Well, it was a pretty obvious question for someone to raise. I don’t suppose that Giz wants these two to look like irresponsible idiots.
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Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:09 am
From what I have read in other places, discomfort during the first sexual encounter is likely due entirely (or almost entirely) to the belief that it will be painful. Apparently there is a vicious cycle/self-fulfilling prophecy going on. Girls hear that it hurts the first time, so they brace themselves for it instead of relaxing, which causes it to hurt. Then they tell this to friends who haven't done it yet, and the cycle repeats. Google vaginismus if you're not familiar with the term.

But I know of at least one woman who reports that when she first had intercourse, she had never heard that it hurt, wasn't expecting it to hurt, and it didn't hurt.
Which raises the question of what Ruby expected. One could imagine that she would have been braced, but she was so excited and pleased that she forgot to worry. Actually, one can also imagine her doing exactly the same reading that you did, and being Ruby, trusting and internalising what she read and making herself relax.
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Re: SDB 04-12-18 You did not hear it from me

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Alright, Amber, you've overheard plenty. Walk away now, before this gets really weird.
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Gods I missed Amber, and wish she would have stayed in MA3, since she really felt unused in SDB. Hell, it would have been more interesting to see her continue pursuing a relationship with Gary and see them actually develop.

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Spidrift wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:10 pm
brasca wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:31 pm
Hopefully, Amber has the wherewithal to know what’s going on and won’t barge in.
Amber would have to be pretty damn stupid and rude to barge in on anyone at this point; it's crystal clear what's happening in that room, and even she knows that most people don't like being interrupted during sex. And she actively wants to repair her relationship with Ruby, though she doesn't have much clue how.

Whether she tries to fish around the topic in conversation later may be another question. If she wants Ruby to like her a bit more, then working with Dillon to find subtle ways to give Ruby a room to herself from time to time would be smart, but they're basically stuck with being three people in a two-room apartment (four counting Ray), so that may be mostly a matter of bundling Dillon off to Jerzy's place as often as possible.

Actually, a wrap-up for the comic might include Ruby getting a place of her own...

Talking of wrap-ups, this feels a bit like a scene ending, so we may cut back to Ma3 on Thursday. But we'll see.
True, but this being a farce IQ levels decrease inversely to crazy coincidences. Ruby seems smart enough to lock the door before getting down to business, but she could've gotten distracted due to this situation which is understandable. And even if she did since it appears to be Dillon and Amber's dressing room she may have a key to the door. That being said I don't think Amber could misunderstand what's going on in that room and will just walk away smiling.

One possibility for a change in accommodations would be if Gary and Peggy decide to leave the apartment and Andy and Ruby take their place. It wouldn't be as crowded since Zii would be out on tour, but I can see things bookending perfectly if DiDi returned home only to find Ruby and Andy's sex life has gotten bolder.

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I’m not sure that DiDi walking in on Ruby and Andy having sex would be good for them. Ruby is still getting over some issues, and DiDi is a walking inferiority-complex-induction device for other women. Though I still think that if there’s one person who’d look past the obvious and read DiDi right from the outset, it’s Ruby.

Bets for today, if we don’t cut back to Ma3... Probably a cut to next morning inthe apartment and everyone talking around this subject, but the comic has been emphasising that Andy has been focusing on Ruby’s pleasure so far. Which is sweet of him and good for her, but she’s too nice a person herself to let that go indefinitely — and she did get Dillon’s little lecture with the banana. So Andy may be in line for a bit more tactile stimulation.
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