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Ha! I rather enjoy how Ruby disregards the drama around Zii and Angel by concisely, if somewhat dismissively, noting how their musical talents will make them a formidable band.

Angel seems to playing the Zii role of deflecting responsibility; if they hadn't cheated, they wouldn't have lost their boyfriend to Dillon, and blaming Zii for tattling is merely a display of Angel's lack of insight.

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Angel didn't cheat though, they never slept with the other guy.

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Cortez wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:38 am
Angel didn't cheat though, they never slept with the other guy.
Cheating specter is far and wide and down to any individual, for example, some consider even looking at a passing sexy person for one second too long a cheating while others don't care for as long as there is no physical contact.

I'd say dating someone else with the intent of getting laid regardless of how it ended falls into definitive cheating category for most people.

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that wasn't a just friendly kiss they ended on either
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I was wondering if Zii's 'sneaking' on Angel was going to get traction... even if just a quarter-panel. Seems like it isn't going to mean much more to Angel, as their desire to maim/injure/throttle Zii doesn't need much to keep it going.

I wonder what Julian's relationship to Dillon is then, if Dillon and Jerzy are hooked up. Friends, I guess.

And yes, Zii & Angel would be formidable musicians in the same band. Now, everyone thinks that. Applause, fame, accolades, and a recording contract would probably be all that is needed for Angel & Zii to bury the hatchet... barring an ego-outbreak. Fortunately, Erik should be able to make it so that everyone in the band is recognized; he seems competent.
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worldshaking00 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:19 am


And yes, Zii & Angel would be formidable musicians in the same band. Now, everyone thinks that. Applause, fame, accolades, and a recording contract would probably be all that is needed for Angel & Zii to bury the hatchet... barring an ego-outbreak. Fortunately, Erik should be able to make it so that everyone in the band is recognized; he seems competent.
or baring that smart enough to bring a big enough spray bottle to stop them from fighting
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Cortez wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:38 am
Angel didn't cheat though, they never slept with the other guy.
To reiterate what others already mentioned: Angel needn't have slept with the other guy for it to be considered cheating. It seemed to display at minimum a plan to cheat, thus can be concluded as such.
There is also the concept of emotional cheating, which is what Angel did do.

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vampire hunter D wrote:
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worldshaking00 wrote:
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And yes, Zii & Angel would be formidable musicians in the same band. Now, everyone thinks that. Applause, fame, accolades, and a recording contract would probably be all that is needed for Angel & Zii to bury the hatchet... barring an ego-outbreak. Fortunately, Erik should be able to make it so that everyone in the band is recognized; he seems competent.
or baring that smart enough to bring a big enough spray bottle to stop them from fighting
Some major music acts managed to deal out hits in spite of oceans of booze and mountains of cocaine, so Zii and Angel's petty enmity shouldn't stop them from achieving success.

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I am hoping the wrap-up addresses Ray and his and Dillon’s unconsummated feelings for each other. Even with Dillon back with Jerzy, Ray’s stability with Amber seems . . . tenuous.

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UnsightlyWalrus wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:43 am
Cortez wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:38 am
Angel didn't cheat though, they never slept with the other guy.
Cheating specter is far and wide and down to any individual, for example, some consider even looking at a passing sexy person for one second too long a cheating while others don't care for as long as there is no physical contact.

I'd say dating someone else with the intent of getting laid regardless of how it ended falls into definitive cheating category for most people.
All they did was kiss and it wasn't even a deep one. They didn't wasnt to get laid either.

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Cortez wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:38 am
Angel didn't cheat though, they never slept with the other guy.
Jerzy, on the other hand...
UnsightlyWalrus wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:43 am
I'd say dating someone else with the intent of getting laid regardless of how it ended falls into definitive cheating category for most people.
Angel promised Richie a date; not nookie. They ended the date with a kiss. Sure, you shouldn't be kissing another guy when you're in a relationship; but the act itself could be considered a 'lost in the moment' scenario. It's still wrong, but it's not actively cheating.

Meanwhile, Jerzy slams his ex boyfriend because *gasp* his sister wasn't home to babysit him while they played board games; and Dillon is just oh so irresistible that Jerzy simply couldn't help himself. 8-|

Someone definitely cheated in the proper sense of the word; but it wasn't Angel. I wonder if Angel will ever find out that little tidbit (please, Dillon - brag some more! Jerzy deserves some comeuppance for being a unapologetic hypocrite).
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OllieOrOlly wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:34 am
Ha! I rather enjoy how Ruby disregards the drama around Zii and Angel by concisely, if somewhat dismissively, noting how their musical talents will make them a formidable band.
Yeah, Ruby does tend to think of the practical and the material first, unlike pretty much everyone else we've seen in that universe. It makes it easy for me to like her.
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:43 am
I'd say dating someone else with the intent of getting laid regardless of how it ended falls into definitive cheating category for most people.
But that date was specifically a friendship-only thing; Angel was clear about that in advance. And yes, even the kiss at the end could easily be treated as a gesture of friendship, though Zii could be forgiven for interpreting it otherwise.
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:19 am
I wonder what Julian's relationship to Dillon is then, if Dillon and Jerzy are hooked up. Friends, I guess.
Dillon was carefully keeping Julian at arm's length, best he could, because the idea squicked him out. Setting Julian up for a romantic ending is going to be quite tricky, actually.
worldshaking00 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:19 am
And yes, Zii & Angel would be formidable musicians in the same band. Now, everyone thinks that. Applause, fame, accolades, and a recording contract would probably be all that is needed for Angel & Zii to bury the hatchet... barring an ego-outbreak. Fortunately, Erik should be able to make it so that everyone in the band is recognized; he seems competent.
Plenty of bigger bands than that have exploded and lost millions they could have made together because of personality clashes, despite some famously hard-working and diplomatic managers. (Everly Brothers, Beatles, Kinks, Oasis, Spice Girls...) But we can guess that this one will hang together so long as it's funny.
OllieOrOlly wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:23 am
There is also the concept of emotional cheating, which is what Angel did do.
I'd agree they seemed to be teetering there. Ironically, Angel was potentially heading towards a reasonably sane and healthy relationship with Richie -- a nice guy with no emotional baggage -- but trying to avoid it because of moral loyalty to that unhealthy and obsessive thing with Jerzy. Zii probably unintentionally brought about a much better result.
christopheftw wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:54 am
I am hoping the wrap-up addresses Ray and his and Dillon’s unconsummated feelings for each other. Even with Dillon back with Jerzy, Ray’s stability with Amber seems . . . tenuous.
While I'm not sure that Amber is best placed to judge her relationship with Ray -- remember that she's said he's her first actual boyfriend -- and Ray's a bit of a dimwit, they do seem to be taking it seriously. Whereas Dillon's thing for Ray was an adolescent crush, and Ray has never shown any real signs of attraction to Dillon, beyond enjoying a good kiss. I doubt that the Dillon/Ray ship was ever going anywhere.
Fluffy wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:38 am
Cortez wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:38 am
Angel didn't cheat though, they never slept with the other guy.
Jerzy, on the other hand...
Yeah. Which makes me wonder why Angel is throttling Zii when Dillon is in the room. Zii just snitched on Angel; Dillon actually shagged Angel's boyfriend and is now smugly gloating about the fact.
Fluffy wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:38 am
Someone definitely cheated in the proper sense of the word; but it wasn't Angel. I wonder if Angel will ever find out that little tidbit (please, Dillon - brag some more! Jerzy deserves some comeuppance for being a unapologetic hypocrite).
I rather assume that all the facts have already come out in the course of some screaming rows. Dillon will hardly have missed an opportunity to gloat, even if Jerzy was more tactful or ashamed. I think that things reached a new equilibrium in the hiatus.

Which makes me wonder where this scene is going. As Ruby's situation really needs to be sorted out, I'm guessing that Ramona or somebody will ask her about her news, leading this shower to offer their various sorts of dubious advice. And darn having to wait until next Tuesday to find out.

(Oh yes, and I liked Zii's "Who does that?" in panel 2. She should know perfectly well that the answer is "her old band". Plus, possibly less intentional irony; Angel is trying to strangle someone who's wearing what the Victorians would have classed as an anti-garrote collar.)
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Other option. Kill Dillon.

While you can add Zii tattling to the pile of reasons Angel hates her Dillon's smug hypocrisy is grating. What he and Jerzy did was more than dinner with a coworker and a peck on the cheek.

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Yeah, this comic has never quite lost that tendency to make Dillon less likable than the writer thinks he is, has it?
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