18-07-18 Hired for mon talent

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Re: 18-07-18 Hired for mon talent

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Spidrift wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:57 am
The cynical thing here is the way that DiDi’s sex appeal reduces to her breast size. I mean, Giz has actually given her other sexy features — she’s tall, clearly graceful, with the blonde hair and the pout — but the way the other characters talk (and act), you could stick those boobs on a hunchbacked lizard-woman and achieve the same result. Which, sadly, may not be entirely unjustified, though I’d like to think that I’m not that unusual in thinking that I’m a bit more subtle than that. And hell, even in-comic, Zii (for example) has plenty of sex appeal, in her way. But I guess that energy, emotional connection, and enthusiasm don’t show up on camera the way that big boobs do.
Well, Didi's boobs have always been a running gag since her first appearance when Zii stumbles upon them, even the nickname itself, I have 2 friends called Desiree and their nicknames are "Desi" and "Dez", but hers is "DiDi", I wonder if Giz has a backstory for who gave her that nickname. :-?

But you're right, Didi's sex appeal doesn't reduce to her breast size (and firmness-even-though-they-re-natural), even in-comic people can see that, Yuki described part of her sex-appeal without focusing only on her breasts, Zii complements her entire body all of the time, and other characters as well...

I always thought of Zii as the Batman of sex appeal, years of training, energy and charisma are the source of her powers, while Didi is more like Wonder Woman of sex appeal, she was born of a god and her amazon training (all the exercises) are just a plus. (And if we go by the movie, she also has an accent :D )
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I have only known two women/girls named Desire, and both went by Deedee, so maybe breast size wasn't involved in her nick name. One of the Deedees was pre-puberty so her breasts were hypothetical when she got the nickname.
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Ok, it seems that Deedee can be a nickname for Desiree.

So I went to the archives to watch again Didi introducing herself to see if I got any leads, and guess what...

She says "the boyfriends call me Didi" (while Gary and Zii focus on her chest) and she thinks of it as cute... So 1. Men gave her the nickname, so i'm positive it's her boobs, and 2. She finds it cute, so once again, she is clueless...
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Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:18 am
I’m somewhat curious about what DiDi does next. Going round the entire cast asking “Do you only like me for my breasts?” perhaps... I could see her telling Lynn that she’ll only join WW3 if she could bring Roxie with her, but even if she pulled that off, I’d then expect Roxie to be furious at being patronised.
Agreed. Even though Didi is thoughtless/clueless most of the time with her conversation, she does seem to have affectionate spots for those she considers friends. She really tries hard to keep her close friendships close, oftentimes to the point of being clingy. But I don't think that stems from something malicious, but rather because she has had so few true friends. I could see her demanding Roxie be given her contract... or both as a package deal even. It might help keep Roxie and Brandy together (in secret of course to maintain their kayfabe), and Didi does value Roxie's friendship (even if Roxie doesn't consider Didi a friend... rather more of a necessary nuisance).

And just as likely, Roxie would be pissed at Didi... thinking that Didi was offering her a handout... that Roxie couldn't make it into the WW3 on her own merit. Logical conclusion.

I don't know if the creative team has the time to have Didi do a call-a-thon asking if they only like her for her sex appeal; it would be rather dry and monotonous with little gain. The only person who Didi should truly value the opinion of is Zii... and maybe Gary since they are better than average friends. Given Gary's growth spurts, he would probably be the straight shooter, especially since he has at least partially overcome the Didi effect after bearing it full force on numerous occasion. Zii might get flustered and/or angry or otherwise emotionally conflicted considering the Gary 'longing look'.

As to answering the phone when in compromising positions, even Gary picked up the phone when his Mom called for his birthday... when Amber was sharing his bed. Whether it is a sign of the technological age we live in or just for the comedy gag effect, telephone interruptions during intimacies are part of the strip.
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I could actually see Gary experiencing a bit of an epiphany if DiDi threw the question his way.

DiDi: Gary, do you only find me attractive because of mes tetons?
Gary: ...Oh damn. Yes. I’m sorry if I’m shallow.
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Interesting thought. Somehow I think Gary wouldn't say it like that though. Peggy, on the other hand, might be more blunt and direct.

Gary never really was able to fully and technically have Didi as a girlfriend, having only the one night stand. He lusted after her, but slowly developed his partial immunity to her nudity from continually drawing her naked in order to improve his art. Looks aside, she can be charming to the simple-minded/sex-minded. Little black dresses... apron revealing her derriere... sexy looks. Showing cleavage is just a simple trick for her, but one that works 99.44% of the time. And since Gary has a pulse, he fell for Didi's advances. How he thinking of getting to have sex with Didi, is a fair question. In the moment, he was on cloud 9. After getting his masculinity questioned by not being able to give her an orgasm? Probably less so.
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worldshaking00 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:14 am
Interesting thought. Somehow I think Gary wouldn't say it like that though. Peggy, on the other hand, might be more blunt and direct.

Gary never really was able to fully and technically have Didi as a girlfriend, having only the one night stand. He lusted after her, but slowly developed his partial immunity to her nudity from continually drawing her naked in order to improve his art. Looks aside, she can be charming to the simple-minded/sex-minded. Little black dresses... apron revealing her derriere... sexy looks. Showing cleavage is just a simple trick for her, but one that works 99.44% of the time. And since Gary has a pulse, he fell for Didi's advances. How he thinking of getting to have sex with Didi, is a fair question. In the moment, he was on cloud 9. After getting his masculinity questioned by not being able to give her an orgasm? Probably less so.
All in all, I think he took it pretty well.

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This interaction might modify Gary's conversation should Didi ask him. I don't mean to say that Gary would badger her, but rather he might be truthful about how she used him and then poked him for his inability to bring her to climax.
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Giz is the master of the sexy surprise.
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I don't think Didi will try to sell the ww3 on the 2 for 1 deal of herself and Roxie as a package. Instead, she'll simply reject their offer. She does have pride and thinks of herself as more than a beautiful woman. She does not like being taken advantage of, though it often takes her a little time to discover that she either had been taken advantage of or it's currently happening. She frequently acts without thinking things through so the Roxie/DiDi deal will probably occur to her but, with Brandy hopefully still around, DiDi would run it by her first before making the offer. Didi has never shown a mercenary streak, most likely because, ever since post-puberty, men would give her practically anything she wanted simply because she asked for it. She could be quite content to continue at her current level, getting better at the show and, hopefully, doesn't ask why she was hired by her current management in the first place.
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Spidrift wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:57 am
OllieOrOlly wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:18 am
Still seems really skeevy, with how Lynn clearly used Maura's starstruck state to seduce her... It is apparently all consensual, but that doesn't stop it from being uncomfortable.
Honestly, let’s face it, human beings fixate on celebrity. Actually, it may be a primate thing; I remember reading about an experiment which showed that the two categories of picture that would distract monkeys from sweet food were (a) hot monkey porn and (b) images of their troupe leaders. Given which, celebrities may find that most of their sexual relationships are tainted by hero-worship from the other party. (And, okay, finding that a bit uncomfortable may be one reason why they so often shag each other.) But, in the end, so long as the other party is a consenting adult, so what?

Beautiful people can use their beauty to get sex, clever people can use witty chat-up lines, rich people use the offer of luxury — in a perfect world, people would be less shallow, but so long as no one is abusing their power to exploit the under-aged or otherwise vulnerable, it’s just how the game goes. And here, the otherwise unattached Maura is getting her fangirl itch scratched, scoring a win for her competitive urge, and probably being shown a good time, so why should anyone stop her?
OllieOrOlly wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:18 am
Anyway, her response to DiDi shows how she really doesn't care about Maura - in spite of the superficial emotionality she earlier expressed over Maura's passion - thus feeding back into how the whole hook up is unpleasant.
I read that as more the DiDi Joke than any comment on her view Maura. Sure, okay, this is a pretty casual hook-up — but whatever Lynn might be doing just now, DiDi has magic boobs. They have a terrible effect on other people, and even thinking about them is horribly distracting. Maura is entitled to complain, but there’s really nothing to be done about it.
I appreciate your intelligent response. You make good points, I'm just personally finding the hook up really uncomfortable. I guess I'm also annoyed that my opinion is being overrided (I know, I'm being a poor baby, since this is basic forum stuff); just because they are adults technically consenting, doesn't mean I have to like it.

I understand it as a DiDi Effect joke; my general point was that Lynn's lust for DiDi overshadows her lust for Maura, and the whole "following one's heart" shtick Lynn pulled makes her earlier platitudes empty; if Lynn did her usual supposedly *honest* approach to hook ups, rather than feigning some sense of being emotionally moved, then I'd be less bothered.

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