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Called it. Both Roxie and Brandy are more concerned with the fact that DiDi is rushing it and that she's still to green.

Like Roxie points out, she still hasn't had a match yet.

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Going by Didi's breast size, I seriously doubt there's anything firm about them. Unless they are fake.

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So, which form of DiDi's idiocy is most likely: her arrogance from almost constantly getting things her way, or plain old ignorance? Bit of both, perhaps. I'll give the benefit of the doubt as another option, in that she was simply showing hopeful optimism... Though, her track record makes this human foil highly improbable.
I don't think there is any feasible, reasonable way to make DiDi likeable before the story ends; she was better off as a prop in the background (just my opinion in that regard).*

Seems like Roxie is jealous, but of DiDi's assets, not opportunities - Roxie's argument is valid, even if her personal insecurity does factor in at the end; shows that Roxie is a better person than DiDi, since if the situation was reversed, DiDi would be consumed by jealousy if someone *new* leapt passed her.


*Kind of went off along a tangent: I guess a character doesn't need to be likeable for audience investment, but DiDi is a rare misstep of the series, as she is somehow both boring and frustrating; without her beauty, she'd be nothing, yet there are plenty of other attractive characters in the series and they actually have varying levels of complexity (when needed).
There was a time when I could sympathise for DiDi, as her overwhelming attractiveness was as much a curse as blessing, since nobody bothered or felt inclined to know her more than being a hot babe, however, when she was given centre stage, it seems apparent that she really has no depth beyond the external beauty - perhaps due to being unable to properly connect to others, whatever part of her that could has long since vanished into the emptiness of her skull

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And we are here reminded why DiDi didn't have any female friends between high school and her meeting Sandra and Zii. If other women get jealous of her boobs, it's petty and unkind of them, but they're not actually wrong to think that she (unconsciously) exploits the crap out of their effect on men. And yes, Roxie's odd but rather appealing immunity to the DiDi Effect keeps her vision clear, if tinged with justified cynicism.

Also, note that DiDi is written as casually vain; she's happy to believe that she might somehow not need any more training. Yeah, are we really meant to see her as a sympathetic character?

Oh, important note for those who don't know any French, as it's more crucial than usual here; "formation" actually means training in French.
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Well, Roxie is not wrong.

... Egad, I shudder to think what kind of 'style' Lynn's boss has in mind for Chastel.

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OllieOrOlly wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:14 am
Seems like Roxie is jealous, but of DiDi's assets, not opportunities <snip>
Possibly, but I think it is more accurate to say that Roxie is jealous of the opportunities presented because Didi has those assets. Doors seem to magically to open for beautiful people, and I take it that such behavior pisses Roxie off. We haven't seen Roxie demonstrate a desire to have a bigger bosom, ala Kiley. Roxie seems more than comfortable in her femininity. Depending on how much of a nice gal/teacher Roxie is deep down, she could bluntly tell Didi that the WW3 is wanting her because of her image/tatas and not because of any skill she might have.

Echoing @Spidrift, Didi is confident that people want her for the reasons they give. She doesn't seem to understand double-speak* or when people are using her. That flaw, when combined with her desire to find an orgasm, probably made dating her/getting her into bed extremely easy (as long as the man she was dating was handsome). She is gullible if she feels a situation isn't working against her.

*which is actually amusing on another level since Didi speaks in her Franglish/broken French-English muddle literally all of the time; she expects others to understand her dual linguistics but she herself can't understand subtlety or not-cleverly-veiled deceptions in one language... or even when hit on the head with one sometimes.

I am getting the impression that Didi's character flaw ("casual vanity" because I like the way that sounds) is so deeply ingrained in her since puberty/childhood that it can't be overcome. At least not in the space allotted. She is a force of nature... a plot device if you will... and it drives many of the stories told in the comic. Perhaps the happy place Didi will end up in is one that is superficially happy, as befitting her karmically. However I get the impression that not every character is going to their correct karmic reward. C'est la vie.
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I can imagine that DiDi symbolises practically everything about the world that pisses Roxie the hell off. Roxie isn’t unattractive or especially unfeminine, but she wants to be taken seriously for her skills, not her looks, and to shake up the world of women’s wrestling on that basis. (Which, realistically, would probably have to rate as insane optimism, because wrestling is a tacky mass-market entertainment form, so of course it’ll focus on big boobies over skill.) Seeing Brandy get scouted by the big leagues ahead of herself will have been bad enough, but at least Brandy has skills of her own, and rates as a friend; DiDi can’t even pretend not to be complicit in her own objectification.

So Roxie’s immunity to the DiDi Effect probably makes sense.
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UnsightlyWalrus wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:00 am
Going by Didi's breast size, I seriously doubt there's anything firm about them. Unless they are fake.
Well I would say to you "This is the Ma3verse", but there are cases in the real world where someone hits the breast-gene-lottery jackpot.

In Didi's case, she hits all the reasons she doesn't sag:

1. Genes (she seems to have the perfect balance in gland-tissue, fat-tissue and connective-tissue, plus like Yuki said, she has "crazy back muscles", and we have seen her upper body strength).
2. She exercises like crazy
3. She keeps her weight stable
4. She doesn't have kids (although, I've heard doctors say this one is a myth)
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Spidrift wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:57 pm
(Which, realistically, would probably have to rate as insane optimism, because wrestling is a tacky mass-market entertainment form, so of course it’ll focus on big boobies over skill.)
Actually, there are a lot of skilled female wrestlers these days. Even the WWE is focusing more on skill over looks.

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worldshaking00 wrote:
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:26 pm
Possibly, but I think it is more accurate to say that Roxie is jealous of the opportunities presented because Didi has those assets. Doors seem to magically to open for beautiful people, and I take it that such behavior pisses Roxie off. We haven't seen Roxie demonstrate a desire to have a bigger bosom, ala Kiley. Roxie seems more than comfortable in her femininity. Depending on how much of a nice gal/teacher Roxie is deep down, she could bluntly tell Didi that the WW3 is wanting her because of her image/tatas and not because of any skill she might have.
That's what I like about Roxie. Aside from her short temper she's one of the few well adjusted people in this strip.

I wonder how this will all play out. The boss (who I still think will be revealed to be a Faith doppleganger) wants to sign DiDi up because she's great eye candy, but even with everything staged she may still find a way to blow it up if she can't get the timing and cues right.

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The Boss is obviously Blair
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I hope is Faith, an adult version of her would be well received :ymhug:

Although in this strip the boss sounded like Blair.
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I have to say, my money's on an alternate Blair.

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i say Faith should be one of the wrestlers.

Oh, and we need a Callie expy too.
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