26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Gotta love that Minew just sits there, staring up, while Ruby talks at her/him.
It's nice that Amber found a way to communicate with her sister in an odd, indirect, but seemingly very helpful manner.
Flipping love the art - both sisters look stunning, even in a simple conversational setting; excellent body language, too, such as Ruby's look of confusion and Amber's slouched incredulous posture.
I doubt Andy is actually asexual, though it isn't impossible; if he is asexual, perhaps he isn't consciously aware of it, which is why he showed no hesitation to offer Ruby physical intimacy, regardless of nothing happening due to her shyness overpowering her desire. Andy's asexuality is plausible since he seems to show no initiative; however, just because he doesn't pursue sex, doesn't mean he is asexual, rather he is simply respectful of boundaries and not wanting to impose his feelings on to Ruby. So, no certainty either way.
... although, odds are, in Ma3-verse, all men, even asexual ones, would enjoy getting F'd in the a'. Aha
It's nice that Amber found a way to communicate with her sister in an odd, indirect, but seemingly very helpful manner.
Flipping love the art - both sisters look stunning, even in a simple conversational setting; excellent body language, too, such as Ruby's look of confusion and Amber's slouched incredulous posture.
I doubt Andy is actually asexual, though it isn't impossible; if he is asexual, perhaps he isn't consciously aware of it, which is why he showed no hesitation to offer Ruby physical intimacy, regardless of nothing happening due to her shyness overpowering her desire. Andy's asexuality is plausible since he seems to show no initiative; however, just because he doesn't pursue sex, doesn't mean he is asexual, rather he is simply respectful of boundaries and not wanting to impose his feelings on to Ruby. So, no certainty either way.
... although, odds are, in Ma3-verse, all men, even asexual ones, would enjoy getting F'd in the a'. Aha
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
As I said when someone threw this idea onto the boards, I don’t really see how asexuality fits Andy; he was not only happy to get dates with Ruby (which, yes, could be heteroromantic asexuality), he was vaguely willing to give it a go when he thought that Ruby wanted sex. But, okay, maybe he’s just weirdly obliging. It still seems like a rather dull way to kill this plotline, though. More likely, I suspect that this is a hook to get Ruby talking to Andy, saying she thinks she understands, followed by a confused conversation leading to the truth coming out.
And if Andy is ace, then Ruby is stuck in a wall-punching state of newly awakened libido, which will need its own resolution. If she gets him obligingly into bed, it’ll either feel like her exploiting him, or lead to a slightly ropey-looking “Gosh, it turned out to be fun after all!” moment. And Ruby looking for another, casual partner would be a big, difficult thing for her.
As for Amber’s look of exasperation in the last panel, well, I can understand her feelings, but she adopted this form of communication as a way round Ruby’s attitude; she’ll just have to accept some (genuine) gratitude and appreciation through the same channel for the time being. She can work on that problem later.
(And I assume that an asexual working in porn just regards it as a rather sticky and weird way to get paid money. If you attach no emotional weight to sex, then engaging in it is just a mechanical process.)
And if Andy is ace, then Ruby is stuck in a wall-punching state of newly awakened libido, which will need its own resolution. If she gets him obligingly into bed, it’ll either feel like her exploiting him, or lead to a slightly ropey-looking “Gosh, it turned out to be fun after all!” moment. And Ruby looking for another, casual partner would be a big, difficult thing for her.
As for Amber’s look of exasperation in the last panel, well, I can understand her feelings, but she adopted this form of communication as a way round Ruby’s attitude; she’ll just have to accept some (genuine) gratitude and appreciation through the same channel for the time being. She can work on that problem later.
(And I assume that an asexual working in porn just regards it as a rather sticky and weird way to get paid money. If you attach no emotional weight to sex, then engaging in it is just a mechanical process.)
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
That 3rd panel, Ruby's expression and what she says, is priceless.
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
I read and heard in a few places that shooting porn isn't really exciting or satisfying for women , more often painful. So being ace would be less of a frustration I guess. Also, some asexual people masturbate but have no attraction to others. So that would take care of the fact that they are not alwaus attracted to their coworkers.
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Actually, I suspect that Amber's "got into it because she really enjoys sex" explanation would be significantly less common in reality than "it's just a (rather squidgy) job".
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Oh yeah, link broken again. Needs an http:// prefix -- http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/sdb-just-a-kitten/
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
I dunno dude. I've read some blogs and some interviews here and there from porn stars. They mostly seem of the mind it's exactly like being an actor/actress just centered around sex instead of plot. I mean, can you imagine how many "takes" they have to do for the right shot? Standing around having to get your genitals adjusted or wiped down to start from the top? So it's more like "Is this a job you're able to act your way through" and less "is this sexy for you". If it helps, think of how many "lesbian" porn straight porn actresses do. They just act!
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Uhh, you appear to be agreeing with me.
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
What’s not to understand? Andy may like the companionship, but just doesn’t have a desire for sex. He’ll oblige if asked, but to him it’s just something to do on a date like opening the door.Spidrift wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:40 amAs I said when someone threw this idea onto the boards, I don’t really see how asexuality fits Andy; he was not only happy to get dates with Ruby (which, yes, could be heteroromantic asexuality), he was vaguely willing to give it a go when he thought that Ruby wanted sex. But, okay, maybe he’s just weirdly obliging. It still seems like a rather dull way to kill this plotline, though. More likely, I suspect that this is a hook to get Ruby talking to Andy, saying she thinks she understands, followed by a confused conversation leading to the truth coming out.
And if Andy is ace, then Ruby is stuck in a wall-punching state of newly awakened libido, which will need its own resolution. If she gets him obligingly into bed, it’ll either feel like her exploiting him, or lead to a slightly ropey-looking “Gosh, it turned out to be fun after all!” moment. And Ruby looking for another, casual partner would be a big, difficult thing for her.
As for Amber’s look of exasperation in the last panel, well, I can understand her feelings, but she adopted this form of communication as a way round Ruby’s attitude; she’ll just have to accept some (genuine) gratitude and appreciation through the same channel for the time being. She can work on that problem later.
(And I assume that an asexual working in porn just regards it as a rather sticky and weird way to get paid money. If you attach no emotional weight to sex, then engaging in it is just a mechanical process.)
And while I can understand Amber’s frustration it was actually one of the more friendlier conversations with her sister. Baby steps.
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
That's the "weirdly obliging" possibility I mentioned. I guess that I can imagine wanting sex or not wanting sex at all, but doing it out of vague niceness with no personal interest seems... odd. Apart from anything else, from a male point of view, to put this bluntly -- if one can get an erection, reasonably reliably, I take that as proof that one does want sex.
It'd also make for excessive plot complications. Ruby doesn't strike me as someone who'd demand sex from a partner who wasn't particularly interested; it seems both rude and humiliating at the same time, and if she's not always polite, she does have standards. But she's now got to the stage where she clearly does want sex, for stress relief apart from anything else. I seem to recall a similar situation arising in Girls With Slingshots, but there, the partner who did want sex was the sort who could find casual pick-ups in bars for the relief, with her asexual partner's consent; Ruby would find it difficult to get to that stage.
Oh well -- perhaps she'll get Andy into bed as a favour once or twice, and then get him enjoying the challenge of working off all her tension before he passes out with exhaustion, giving them both their own sort of satisfaction. Or perhaps she'll unleash Rudy on him, and we'll end up with yet more pegging.
(Assuming that he is ace, of course, rather than this all being an hilarious misunderstanding.)
Agreed entirely on that.
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Believe me, many a porn actress and a few porn actors (its more difficult for men) have no emotional feelings when engaging in sexual acts for a porn movie. Just take notice that most actress are not aroused in their scenes. The actor working with those women often lack a "glistening" on their p**** in the scene. Its a matter of detail that most dont pay attention to but if you take your time you can notice that easily.
For men in the porn industry that is a situation that is more difficult to occur but it can still happen. Just notice that some actors in their scenes have only half erections. Often in that cases you notice "cuts" in the scene that mark a transition from a sexual position to another. Most often that is used to avoid showing the actor losing his erection in the scene.
I have personally know people that worked in the brazilian porn industry (some actors, a actress and several staff members) they told me that is really common for the ones involved in the scene to have not a single emotional feeling or even desire for his partner. They most often use their imagination in the scene, either thinking they are with a loved one or remembering something that excites then (in the case of the actor). They told me that some actors (men) use injections (Alprostadil to cite one type of medication) to have erections for the scene they are going to film.
So the possibility of asexual people working in the porn industry is not so strange at all.
Just my two cents
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Wow, that is... wow. I had no idea. Then again, I hadn't really given the matter a lot of thought (nor had I studied the porn industry).
It's funny, just today I remember a discussion we had on these very forums a while ago, where someone mentioned porn actors think of someone they care for while on scene. At the time, I felt incredulous. Why would you want to think of someone you care for while having (or pretending to have), basically, sex on camera for money?
Well. It makes more sense now.
It gives me an unpleasant feeling, even so.
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As for Minew… "The big human who feeds me and grooms me and lets me sleep in her nest is making noises at me. I wonder what it's trying to say?"
So cute. ^_^
It's funny, just today I remember a discussion we had on these very forums a while ago, where someone mentioned porn actors think of someone they care for while on scene. At the time, I felt incredulous. Why would you want to think of someone you care for while having (or pretending to have), basically, sex on camera for money?
Well. It makes more sense now.
It gives me an unpleasant feeling, even so.
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As for Minew… "The big human who feeds me and grooms me and lets me sleep in her nest is making noises at me. I wonder what it's trying to say?"
So cute. ^_^
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Re: 26-07-18 SDB-Just a kitten
Porn industry “may be a bit sordid” shock.
Honestly, the “It’s just a job, not being very interested in sex may actually make it easier” explanation seems so obvious to me that I find Amber’s puzzlement here makes her look a bit stupid.* Though of course the porn actresses we’ve actually seen in the Ma3 universe all seem to be sex mad.
*Okay, logically, the same should go for Ruby. But she’s only just been introduced to this idea and hasn’t had time to think it through — and she knows that Amber likes sex, and Amber may even have said in her earshot that she liked that job, so she’s doubtless fixated on the idea that porn stars are all depraved sex maniacs.
Honestly, the “It’s just a job, not being very interested in sex may actually make it easier” explanation seems so obvious to me that I find Amber’s puzzlement here makes her look a bit stupid.* Though of course the porn actresses we’ve actually seen in the Ma3 universe all seem to be sex mad.
*Okay, logically, the same should go for Ruby. But she’s only just been introduced to this idea and hasn’t had time to think it through — and she knows that Amber likes sex, and Amber may even have said in her earshot that she liked that job, so she’s doubtless fixated on the idea that porn stars are all depraved sex maniacs.
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