01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

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01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by OllieOrOlly » Tue May 01, 2018 7:39 am

Can always welcome some stunning Peggy fanservice - especially the rare, non-pegging version, aha.
It seems as though Gary has ceased stalking and is now dwelling, however, to what end, is uncertain; instead of panicking, Gary should fine some reassurance that he was able to pleasure Peggy as well, if not better, than she had been for years. Granted, Gary is a worrywart, so it makes sense he'd view Peggy's likely former paramour as a rival, which also goes back into wondering how this will segue into the next strip.
Anyways, it cannot be stressed enough that the image of Peggy in flagrante delicto is sublime. :)

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Opus the Poet » Tue May 01, 2018 8:07 am

Well now we see why she was so adamant about getting oral.
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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Zellgato » Tue May 01, 2018 8:22 am

And her comes the ugly portions of Gary I suppose. but most everyone has that aspect

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Derfman » Tue May 01, 2018 9:36 am

Yes Gary, 1+1= (Menage a) 3. Wouldn't surprise me if it ended up that way, lol. Yep, time for the swirly to make it's appearance again.

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Spidrift » Tue May 01, 2018 9:52 am

OllieOrOlly wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 7:39 am
Can always welcome some stunning Peggy fanservice - especially the rare, non-pegging version, aha.
No argument here.
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Tue May 01, 2018 7:39 am
It seems as though Gary has ceased stalking and is now dwelling, however, to what end, is uncertain; instead of panicking, Gary should fine some reassurance that he was able to pleasure Peggy as well, if not better, than she had been for years.
Well yes. If he starts worrying about merely being equal to the best she's ever had, he's in danger of turning into Matt. But it's not vanity that's getting to him; it's the danger of losing Peggy just as he's realised that he might want to keep her.

But anyway, he was never stalking very hard. Just passing and unable to resist a quick eavesdrop.
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Tue May 01, 2018 7:39 am
Granted, Gary is a worrywart, so it makes sense he'd view Peggy's likely former paramour as a rival, which also goes back into wondering how this will segue into the next strip.
Said old paramour is a rival; go back and re-read the dialogue about her maybe settling in Montreal to be near Peggy. But yes, the key point is the segue to Thursday's strip, when we'll probably see morose-Gary bumping into morose-Zii, and see where that starts to lead.

(Unless we cut back to Lynn's hotel room to find out what's going on there.)
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And her comes the ugly portions of Gary I suppose. but most everyone has that aspect
He's not looking ugly so far. Understandably sad isn't ugly.
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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Jackass Mask » Tue May 01, 2018 11:41 am

Is she a rival tho? Really? That would infer that Gary actually had a relationship with Peggy beyond sex and a bit of camaraderie. Yes, I'm quite sure that this is the longest form of any relationship that Gary has had in the form of intimacy with a woman, but it has never come off as an actual relationship. Also true that Gary was reaching the point where he was likely to start trying for one by asking Peggy out on a date, but that has really been the only move he's made for an actual relationship with her. But, especially in this day and age, she could have pushed for a real relationship as well if that was what she wanted.

Yes, I get what Zii was saying at the start of the little roller coaster, but she has no clue what a relationship really is either at this point. Evidenced by her own situation with Didi. Four people in one small apartment, in Canada, with no idea what they need for a healthy relationship... Wow, typing that out really makes this seem like a 90's sitcom. But I guess that has really been the point all along. Sitcom in print. Tally ho!

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Spidrift » Tue May 01, 2018 11:49 am

He wants to have a serious relationship with Peggy, or at least give the idea a go. Hence, somebody else who gets sexually and emotionally intimate with her is de facto competition. A rival for Peggy’s affection, time, and capacity for seriousness.
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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by worldshaking00 » Tue May 01, 2018 2:33 pm

Sexual relationships aren't all fun and games. They are like roller coasters, just like every other human relationship.

Gary has had a few setbacks (having Kiley dump him after deflowering him, Yuki, Sonya, even Tracy and that mess). I am sure there are more.

Gary has had some mature 'reasonable' growth moments (dumping Senna due to their differences, deciding formally that he wasn't interested in Yuki romantically any longer, ditching Amber-Amber as a porn aid and instead valuing her as a human being). I am sure there are more.

Gary has had some confusing yet helpful moments as well (Matt's tutelage, the Gotham play). I am sure there are more.

The way I see it, we are seeing Gary's reaction to a potential rival for Peggy. Logically, he knows he doesn't have a true 'relationship' with Peggy. He might be mildly upset about it, if his saying so came off as salty here. But what the brain knows and what the heart wants rarely intersect. I think he is really experiencing jealousy for Peggy's affection, despite no exclusion being made by Peggy. This is one of the uglier sides of love/sexual relations. Other than Matt, Gary has never had a rival... and Gary was blindsided by Matt being such. I expect Gary to fuck up their FwB relationship, or just end it... or Peggy to get upset at Gary's subconscious/plot-driven stalking. Maybe her happy place is to move in with Bianca? (Peggy needs to get a place of her own).

As @Spidrift has pointed out on numerous occasions, Gary has pretty much bounced from one sexual scenario/partner to another with very little effort being put into getting a new partner. Peggy is his first long term partner, and it only would make sense that he feels weird about sharing her despite the logic and prearranged boundaries of their relationship. Let's not forget that Gary wasn't really looking for a FwB relationship; he wants a girlfriend (or more). Gary is having difficulty separating sex from love/adoration, a common issue I would assume in FwB... especially considering Gary's inexperience with relationships in general and that he usually wears his emotions on his sleeve.

Peggy would also be considered 'low hanging fruit' for Gary in his goal to win a girlfriend. In his mind, it should take little effort to make the leap from FwB to girlfriend. With enough time, perhaps he would win her heart. "Why doesn't she feel the same way about me that I feel about her?" might be going through Gary's mind. Perhaps that is a big reason in him allowing Peggy her pegging fetish, and he also gets to enjoy having sex & sharing afterglow. Gary did seem particularly upset - borderline offended - at seeing Yuki pegging Matt. While some of that can be attributed to the shock of catching Matt/Yuki mid-session, I think there is something deeper underlying.

Gary is on the cusp of a realization: that one has to put work into making a relationship work. He has the 'sacrifice' part of a relationship downpat.

Indeed, perhaps both Gary & Zii will run across the other on the street soon enough. I honestly expected more of the wrestling arc/Lynn's hotel, but perhaps these strips are being issued in this order for chronological reference of the impending trainwrecks/love affairs.
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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Rosa » Tue May 01, 2018 3:48 pm

Ok, it's official, Peggy has been retconned into full out bi-ness.

And Maura is about to start competing with Didi for Lynn, meaning their 3some will happen any time now. And thus, the two last examples of feminine straight-ness in this here webcomic bite the dust.
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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Spidrift » Tue May 01, 2018 3:53 pm

Peggy always made it clear that she’d engaged in a significant amount of same-sex stuff in college; see her early conversation with DiDi. (There’s also an indicative line in Ménage à Zombies.) It just looks now like this was less about youthful experimentation and more about Bianca tending to yank her dial over hard from its usual “actually rather likes doing it with guys” setting. It’s possible that if she did get into a serious thing with Bianca, she’d eventually find she was getting twitchy because she’s more hetero at heart — the same way that Zii seems to get twitchy in any monogamous relationship.

By the way, no one has commented that Gary is having yet another flash of accelerated adulthood in this strip, reflecting analytically on the way that women tend to talk to each other.
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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by capicoli » Tue May 01, 2018 6:55 pm

This has had so much build up that I'm starting to think it will be nothing at all and entirely in Gary's head.

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Jackass Mask » Tue May 01, 2018 7:10 pm

Spidrift wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 3:53 pm
By the way, no one has commented that Gary is having yet another flash of accelerated adulthood in this strip, reflecting analytically on the way that women tend to talk to each other.
I think that is because he hasn't. He's thinking from his own perspective and not really looking at the situation as an outside observer. His comment on women is actually very wrong. If anything it sounds more like a regression. Using a dumb stereotype to try rationalizing a situation. Again, Gary isn't really in a relationship with Peggy. The adult thing to do would be to realize that.

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by uzivatel » Tue May 01, 2018 7:57 pm

A challenger appears.
Rosa wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 3:48 pm
Ok, it's official, Peggy has been retconned into full out bi-ness.
She was never pictured as some avatar of hetero-ness either*
... or as someone who has issues sleeping with her female room-mates for that matter.

*) Gary better than Sonya confirmed

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Re: 01-05-18 Must be her old college roommate

Post by Vitocap » Tue May 01, 2018 8:04 pm

@uzivatel: Indeed, Peggy's claims of almost perfect heterosexuality, like Sonya's, always were a bit :-? ...

The first time we met Peggy, she was fighting with her boyfriend Jim. The reason? She wanted him to go down on her, and he sternly refused. At the end of the fight, she dumped Jim hard.

At that time, her behavior seemed excessive. I mean, a break-up just for that? If you have a cunnilingus fetish but your boyfriend dislikes that, is it really such a big deal? A couple can't agree on everything; when you are in a relationship, you have to learn to tolerate and compromise. Peggy's reaction was a bit over the top... or so it appeared.

But look at today's strip, third panel: Peggy is getting a swirly from Gary and claims that she hasn't orgasmed so hard since college. This is an earthshaking revelation. It means that, when she got banged by Jim, and by Matt, and by who knows how many more men, she only enjoyed it moderately: their penises were not that bad, they were okay, but they didn't hold a candle to Bianca's tongue. Or Gary's tongue. Or, afawk, any tongue.

Suddenly, her break-up with Jim makes a lot of sense. And, suddenly, we are within rights to question her heterosexuality.

Because, seriously, Peggy, my dear sweet girl, if no man's penis can please and satisfy you so completely as a woman's tongue (or even any tongue) you simply don't meet the requirements for plain vanilla straight.

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