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And thus it was that Didi stopped actually listening
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Yeah - but mainly focusing on 1) the sex part (she's asking about sex; not their relationship) and 2) the part that really peaked her interest (in this case - the idea of an open relationship; with head Annie egging her on).

Didi was in the room when Zii told Sonya she was looking for something more serious - but that seems to have conveniently slipped her mind now that she spotted an open.
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Thus, Lynn's planted idea has grown fruit! Not that it was a strong mind, yet still impressive she managed to Inception'd DiDi. Guess it will be a week or two until we find out whether Gary continued his stalking, and whether Peggy and Bianca hook up.

Zii's self-pity party is rather irksome; from her expressions and hyperbole, it seems as though she is acquiescing to her failed relationships as an inevitability due to factors outside of her control. Or if she is recognising them as failing due to her own actions, then her self-pity is still obnoxious as she never tries to learn from mistakes, rather... well, she pulls a Gary by becoming inactive instead of trying to prevent a repeated failure/unwanted scenario.

It is interesting that Zii did not list Sonya as one of the failed relationships - there were others that happened via flashback or mention, but Erik, Yuki, and Sonya were shown to be dating Zii on panel (granted, Yuki was in flashback first, then a brief reunion). It reinforces the sense that Zii is quite a callous or at least apathetic as she didn't think to mention one of her more "dramatic" relationships; during it, she did try to dance the line as "friends with benefits," but they were clearly lovers.

Anyway, I wonder how DiDi will try to propose the open relationship idea? She is clumsy with words (action, too, but I digress), so I doubt she would be able to sell the idea smoothly, as well as handle the fallout from Zii if she finds out Lynn had already been courting DiDi... I'm surprised that I'm interested in what happens next since both Zii and DiDi are unrepentantly selfish and their "relationship" is/was merely a hedonistic farce - in spite of my dislike of them, I'm curious, so kudos, writers. Aha

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I think that we can take it that Gary was left standing in the street, watching a receding taxi and reflecting on the nature of FWB arrangements. How he handles that will be for a later sequence of strips -- though I guess, logically, he may blunder into the middle of this one, and maybe end up exchanging sad comments on the sofa with Zii after this conversation with DiDi goes as pear-shaped as most attempts at communication involving DiDi.

Zii's depressive state isn't pretty, and sure, "self-pity" is one accurate term for it. But to be kinder, well, this does actually look a bit like mild short-term depression. She's been hit with the consequences of her actions, in a larger dose, with fewer escape routes, than she's maybe ever had to handle before, and she's reeling from it. I'd cut her a few strips' worth of slack on this; how she handles it in the longer term will define a lot about her personality. These are the times that try women's souls and all that. A person in such a state might hope for support from thoughtful friends, but Zii has currently only got DiDi; if Gary does breeze in, well, we'll see how deep the new Gary goes.
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OllieOrOlly wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:34 am

Anyway, I wonder how DiDi will try to propose the open relationship idea?
I'm more inclined to believe that Zii will be the one to suggest an open relationship - out of respect for Didi's needs; which I sincerely doubt Didi would protest too much about.
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Spidrift wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:55 am
Zii's depressive state isn't pretty, and sure, "self-pity" is one accurate term for it. But to be kinder, well, this does actually look a bit like mild short-term depression. She's been hit with the consequences of her actions, in a larger dose, with fewer escape routes, than she's maybe ever had to handle before, and she's reeling from it. I'd cut her a few strips' worth of slack on this; how she handles it in the longer term will define a lot about her personality. These are the times that try women's souls and all that. A person in such a state might hope for support from thoughtful friends, but Zii has currently only got DiDi; if Gary does breeze in, well, we'll see how deep the new Gary goes.
Zii has enough wherewithal to know something is up and where this is going and expressing as much so I wouldn't call it self pity.

DiDi has effectively zoned out now so Zii is likely right in this situation.

And damn that is some suggestive innuendo.

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I'm thinking that Gary is going to return home right after Didi and Zii have some kind of breakup. Gary and Zii start watching pornos with cheesy plots together but then they end up having consolation sex on the couch.

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More likely against the wall. Zii has, I seem to recall, a record of jumping on standing people in emotional difficult situations, and Gary likewise has experience of being jumped on when standing around the place. If they wind up in an unplanned nookie situation, it’s unlikely to be anywhere as comfortable as the couch. On past form, anyway.
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This strip is painful to read. I know Zii made her own bed and all that, but I still feel bad for her. In the midst of her depression she's trying to be a better person; and here's Didi just worrying about her precious orgasms. How self centered can you get?

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Not for me. She needs to experience her own medicine first-hand to really "get" it.

And then so does DiDi, but somehow, I doubt that will ever happen.

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I am glad to see Lynn's advice being taken by Didi, even if it is a little later than it should have been exercised. Didi opening up a dialogue with Zii, even if Zii is getting flustered over it. Didi seems genuine... at least until the "open relationship" is brought up. Zii had made it pretty clear that Didi was her pinnacle - her one and only. And by the entire strip's evolution, Zii seems to be wandering closer and closer to wanting someONE special; admittedly, she seeks out most anyone to scratch her itch if she got desperate enough pre-Didi.

Agreed that Zii is suffering from depression. More soul searching and less huffing and ranting would be more therapeutic. Didi being kind, and at least trying to be less selfish (that's how I read it at least), is welcoming. I hope that Didi will be able to shake herself out of her remembering Lynn's open relationship invitation. I expect that Zii will run down her other 'failed' lovers and more of Lynn will creep into Didi's thoughts.

I also don't think Zii will like the idea of an open relationship, at this stage in her life. If Didi brings it up, I think that Zii would acquiesce for fear of just losing Didi outright. Then she'll even be more depressed realizing that she can't perform in bed and in her band, and is losing the love/lust of her life.
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KittyHat wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:54 pm
And then so does DiDi, but somehow, I doubt that will ever happen.
I confess that, if the writers go for some kind of neat and morally satisfying conclusion for all the main cast, I’ll be curious how they handle it with DiDi. I mean, the cast aren’t exactly intellectual titans, but most of them — Gary, Zii, Matt, Yuki, and such — have been written as having a tiny bit of self-awareness and empathy. If they Learn Their Lessons and make serious efforts to Be Better People, and end up with happy endings at least somewhat earned, it needn’t be too far out of character. DiDi, though, just stops thinking when she sees a direct route to her desires. I just can’t imagine her on any kind of plausible pathway to maturity.

I’m guessing she’ll just have to find a DiDi-shaped niche in the wrestling world, keeping fans entertained, slaking Lynn’s lusts, and enjoying the fan adulation. Not a moral conclusion, but at least a place where she fits and doesn’t do too much harm. Assuming that the plan is to tie everything up with a neat bow on the top, of course.
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Interestingly, when Cool Cat Studio ended, most of the cast had paired up except for one of the main three. She really hadn't done anything bad except for falling in love with the wrong person and yet at the end she was moving away to start her life over.

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Spidrift wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:32 pm
KittyHat wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:54 pm
And then so does DiDi, but somehow, I doubt that will ever happen.
I confess that, if the writers go for some kind of neat and morally satisfying conclusion for all the main cast, I’ll be curious how they handle it with DiDi. I mean, the cast aren’t exactly intellectual titans, but most of them — Gary, Zii, Matt, Yuki, and such — have been written as having a tiny bit of self-awareness and empathy. If they Learn Their Lessons and make serious efforts to Be Better People, and end up with happy endings at least somewhat earned, it needn’t be too far out of character. DiDi, though, just stops thinking when she sees a direct route to her desires. I just can’t imagine her on any kind of plausible pathway to maturity.

I’m guessing she’ll just have to find a DiDi-shaped niche in the wrestling world, keeping fans entertained, slaking Lynn’s lusts, and enjoying the fan adulation. Not a moral conclusion, but at least a place where she fits and doesn’t do too much harm. Assuming that the plan is to tie everything up with a neat bow on the top, of course.
I am 75% positive that Didi's conclusion will be her signing with the WW3 and getting into an open relationship with Lynn (and/or Dio if the Didi effect strikes again)...
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