06-03-18 Might be working together

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Alex_84 wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:36 am
Its sad that folks seem to have turned on the comic somewhat so close to the end. I admit I miss the main characters but I suppose after so many years Giz wanted to move the comic into areas that interested her more.
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic. And that has driven many of the old posters off.

When I saw people on the EC forum talking about how terrible Tiffany was and how much they hatsd the character, I knew there were no real fans left. Just trolls
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I hope the fans are there but are just reading/looking at the work and not posting. I cant imagine how depressing it would be as a creator to post art and see so much hate on my own forums.

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OllieOrOlly wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:12 am
On another note, my assertion that Lynn is a predator seems to be strongly reinforced here
And the prize for grossly overstating the case goes to ...

Seriously, this is not that big of a deal. Lynn's just saying, "I'm attracted to you, so I'm going to look the other way so that I don't get aroused."

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vampire hunter D wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:36 am
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic.
And the runner-up award for grossly overstating the case goes to ...
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vampire hunter D wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:36 am
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic. And that has driven many of the old posters off.

When I saw people on the EC forum talking about how terrible Tiffany was and how much they hatsd the character, I knew there were no real fans left. Just trolls
Don't want to go too off topic on the MA3 forum but do you have any examples of that because I can barely remember Tiff being talked about for months and even then nobody was saying they hated her?

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Maybe they've got Tiffany mixed up with Faith or Chloe?

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Or thinking about it possibly they meant Teddi. Because there's no shortage of dislike of her.

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vampire hunter D wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:36 am
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic. And that has driven many of the old posters off.

When I saw people on the EC forum talking about how terrible Tiffany was and how much they hated the character, I knew there were no real fans left. Just trolls.
This. ^

Sad, but true.

At this point, it's prolly as @Alex_84 said: real fans keep reading, but don't write anymore.
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Tiff was hated? I was under the impression that she was one of the most liked characters.

Personally her and Faith were my favorites in MC.
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Vitocap wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:40 pm
vampire hunter D wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:36 am
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic. And that has driven many of the old posters off.

When I saw people on the EC forum talking about how terrible Tiffany was and how much they hated the character, I knew there were no real fans left. Just trolls.
This. ^

Sad, but true.

At this point, it's prolly as @Alex_84 said: real fans keep reading, but don't write anymore.
Thank you for letting us know that you think nobody who has anything critical to say can possibly be a "real fan". I'm guessing that my 5 or so years of reading and buying books and other merchandise was just to help pass the time while I was waiting for my chance to "troll" the forum.

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Alex_84 wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:39 am
vampire hunter D wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:36 am
Alex_84 wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:36 am
Its sad that folks seem to have turned on the comic somewhat so close to the end. I admit I miss the main characters but I suppose after so many years Giz wanted to move the comic into areas that interested her more.
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic. And that has driven many of the old posters off.

When I saw people on the SC forum talking about how terrible Tiffany was and how much they hatsd the character, I knew there were no real fans left. Just trolls.
I hope the fans are there but are just reading/looking at the work and not posting. I can't imagine how depressing it would be as a creator to post art and see so much hate on my own forums.
Maybe that's the reason Giz doesn't write messages in these threads anymore... :(



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vampire hunter D wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:36 am
I think it's just the only people left are hateful and vitriolic. And that has driven many of the old posters off.

When I saw people on the EC forum talking about how terrible Tiffany was and how much they hatsd the character, I knew there were no real fans left. Just trolls.
You know, I understand exactly what you mean. I've been reading the c-verse comics these last days. I'm in the middle of reading Dangerously Chloe.

There's this strip I liked a lot, where Teddy is on a date with Triana at a nice café and Chloe spots them. At first she thinks "Oh, he has a girlfriend now? Good for him!" Then she thinks a little more, shapeshifts into a waitress, brings a cake to Triana and tells her "Your gentleman friend ordered this cake made specially for you!" The frosting writing on the cake says "SURPRISE! YOU'RE BUTT DUMB!" - an insult Triana is especially sensitive to. She gets so furious she smashes the cake on Teddy's face and leaves in a huff, while a smiling Chloe thinks to herself that she did a good deed because Triana wasn't the right girl for him.

I thought this strip was very cute and funny, and Chloe was adorable in her childish attempt to rationalize her jealousy, and I came here to take a look at the forum comments for that strip. Wow! Talk about a surprise! Nothing but bitching, insults and hate at Chloe for being evil and diabolical...

Succubi are supposed to be demons, so one shouldn't be surprised; but that's not even the point here. Chloe has a love crush on Teddy; she doesn't realize it, she doesn't understand her own feelings, she is confused at the differences between human love and succubus love, so in the end she treats Triana as a love rival and acts out of jealousy while refusing to admit she's jealous. It's cute and sweet and amusing and totally a d'awww moment. Triana might think otherwise, but all's fair in love and war, so whatevs. How the hell can people react at such a strip with hating and bashing and shaming?

To which of course the answer is: same as how they hate on Didi and Zii and Lynn. Duh. That's why, D, I think you do have a point: not many people still writing do enjoy the comic. Most who come just come to complain...
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LegendaryKroc wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:40 pm
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Funny you guys should say those things, because I was just thinking about how much I prefer this strip, despite it not catering to my interests much and not being this comic's best work by any means, and how much I didn't give a monkey's bum about what's going on in SotR in the last couple of strips. Irony! What can I say, not everyone dislikes DiDi vehemently.
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:51 pm
It’s not actually about disliking DiDi. It’s not entirely about disliking the wrestling stuff, though that’s nearer to the mark. I was actually somewhat interested in the traces of character development for DiDi, which, yep, look like they might even be working towards some kind of semi-satisfactory closure for her. But any movement on that front is clearly likely to be interrupted at any moment by a boob gag or a wrestling reference — and that’s what we got today. It’s hard to enjoy an actual plot when the incidentals and jokes surrounding it are so uninteresting to oneself. (Of course, if DiDi was less annoying, it might be easier, but whatevs.)

SotR is frequently silly and is overloaded with too many characters and dangerously similar plots. But the jokes are at least a little bit fresh, the sexy stuff is quite sexy, and the characters aren’t actively annoying. Reading that reminds me how Ma3 can be when it’s good.
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:12 am


On another note, my assertion that Lynn is a predator seems to be strongly reinforced here,
Not really. If anything, it seems like you don't know what that term means. Especially since Lynn is being straightforward here.

Lynn is isn't a sexual predator, she's a player at best. That's the term you're looking for.
These three comments make me reflect fondly on my time lurking the boards
because it is interesting to see how different thoughts and feelings on the various series are

have personally really liked Lynn as a character so far
for being a straight-forward and relatively level-headed character as opposed to a wrestling bimbo
and have appreciated her openness in discussing her feelings on sexuality and open relationships with Didi
there are 'issues' that could be presented with her pursuing someone 'in a relationship' but respectful, responsible polyamory is something that this comic has not explored particularly well
mostly serial monogamy with wacky incidences as catalyst for partner swaps to explore different storylines

if holding personal objection to the current storyline, it is that Lynn is coming on pretty heavy to Didi who still has not spoken to her partner about pursuing an open relationship
but she may be operating with a different perception than the reality -- am not clear if she is aware that Didi did not actually speak to Zii, but only overheard her
she's not pressuring Didi into things, but feel like there may be a situation coming in where Didi accepts Lynn's advances and Zii views it as cheating because Didi did not actually communicate with her

The wrestling arc has not bothered me much
the new characters are basically just showing how different types of women are in the industry
and Didi simply being involved in a hobby as 'visible' as Zii's potential career as a rocker
do not comprehend wrestling any more than playing music, but appreciate the exploring of different personalities

but personally have been viewing it through a lens similar to women's self-defense classes
and encountering women of Didi's stature when studying Tai Chi
and how concerns about assault and physical protection impact women from all walks of life
tho, Montréal culture may be skewed in that direction due to the Polytechnique tragedy

in contrast, have been mildly uncomfortable with the recent SotR storyline
my personal feelings on VR complicate things -- have been into VR since getting an Oculus Developer Kit prior to the consumer release
and exploring the ways that VR impacts the mind
in concrete ways -- the reality feels so convincing that people get a sort of motion sickness from moving in VR while their body knows they are not physically moving through space
as well as in psychological ways

kind of been seeing the past few SotR as similar to Alex being loaded up on a substance and manipulated by a predator

have been more comfortable with him getting the headset off -- but the whole factor of manipulating him through VR as a psychological medium to get him into vulnerable positions
has not been the most enjoyable comedic ride these comics have given

but when posting, sometimes worry about influencing the comic and mostly just want to see where it goes
personally just appreciate the content we are being given
and appreciate you all for expressing interesting points of view and giving me things to ponder beyond the comic :x
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I shouldn't worry about influencing the comic. ^_^
As far as I know, the standard practice is for webcomic creators to create a buffer of strips, giving them some leeway in case of holidays or calamities.

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rogermart wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:11 pm
Tiff was hated? I was under the impression that she was one of the most liked characters.

Personally her and Faith were my favorites in MC.
I must say, I myself don't remember Tiff being criticized all that much.

However, Faith, on the other hand, was repeatedly accused of being a serial rapist. :( Her whole "use mind juju to brainwash the whole school into having sex with me" shtick was supposed to give depth and layering to her character, but was poorly received by a lot of forum members...
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