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07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Giz » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:54 am

New strip! http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/the-hard-way/

Sorry for the delay! Recovering from con crud. :(

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Cortez » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:56 am

I guess that's one way to make her feel like she feels.

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by 'J' » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:40 am

well, i did not expect that

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Balancer » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:43 am

If she pulls it off it'll really be a kick in the teeth for Zi's ego.

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by TheEighth » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:46 am

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Boro » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:48 am

Holy shit, that was good! Great move regarding story writing.

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Froboi » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:51 am

Sonya, Didi and Zii are each acting exactly the way I expected them to, but this is the LAST scenario I thought would happen. Didi's flippant attitude and "mean girl-esque" passive-aggressiveness towards any woman who would dare get in the way of her desire for orgasm, combined with Zii's casual betrayal, have triggered Sonya's natural vindictive instincts to break up the "happy couple." Sonya has a right to be mad at both Didi for stealing Zii from her, and Zii for (in her mind) using her, betraying her trust, casually ending their "casual" relationship and simply walking away now that she has her First Place prize. But instead of trying to take the band from Zii (which most of us guessed would have been her move) Sonya understands that taking DiDi away from her would hurt her even more. Although I'm not fully convinced that Sonya truly wants to hurt Zii, she just wants her to be able to understand the pain she's going through. It's actually a very well thought out plan for Sonya.

This presents an interesting opportunity for character development for Sonya and Zii, and maybe DiDi as well. The fact that Didi will even acknowledge Sonya's proposal (and she will, it's DiDi) should show Zii that DiDi cannot be fully loyal to her, which would prove Sonya's point that Didi will only hurt her and that she should be with Sonya, but Sonya at the same time could could (and should) realize that Zii isn't a good person either, and that her own feelings of "not love" are just admiration for the woman that "turned her bi" and that other than very fulfilling sex and their band they have little in common. If Didi even accepts, I doubt Sonya can provide the same emotional connection, and even if Sonya DOES manage to beat Zii (doubtful given their individual experience in ladyloving) that would only result in DiDi wanting to drop Zii for Sonya (which might seem satisfying until Sonya realizes how "intense" DiDi can be) and Zii being so depressed about losing DiDi and Sonya that she might quit the band and ultimately accidentally runs into Gary, setting them up for the One-True-Pairing most fans have been waiting for.

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Spidrift » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:57 am

Much sympathy to Giz for the con crud. It sucks. Get well soon.

Anyway...

Ooh, somebody remembered Sonya's killer competitive instinct. It's not exactly a conventional romcom plot twist, but it's very Sonya.

Now, does she actually have a plan, or is she improvising wildly? Either way, what does she do if Zii and DiDi can't duck the challenge somehow? And if she succeeds, will she expose DiDi's deep-seated shallowness? (She shouldn't succeed, given that the key to resolving DiDi's problem was emotional connection -- but Sonya's talent for weird left-field improvisation shouldn't be underestimated.) Somehow, I'm closest to thinking I have an answer to the last question, and it's "yes".
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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Fluffy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:07 am

Balancer wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:43 am
If she pulls it off it'll really be a kick in the teeth for Zi's ego.
I don't think that's even the point Sonya's trying to make here; more like she's proving to Zii that Didi doesn't actually love her - she just wants her for the orgasms (which will be a proven fact whether Didi inquires about it or if Sonya actually goes down on her to prove she's better than Zii).

I wonder if, should Sonya succeed, would Zii leave - heartbroken - or would she encourage a threeway relationship so she can have her cake and eat it, too?
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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by capicoli » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:13 am

I feel like this could actually be leading into Didi's orgasm problem being a lesbian thing rather a love one. Yuki got Didi close with spanking and iirc sleep groping, then kiley, and zii. The only odd one out is that time with peggy.

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Spidrift » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:22 am

Fluffy wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:07 am
I don't think that's even the point Sonya's trying to make here; more like she's proving to Zii that Didi doesn't actually love her - she just wants her for the orgasms (which will be a proven fact whether Didi inquires about it or if Sonya actually goes down on her to prove she's better than Zii).
You're right that DiDi even thinking about accepting the offer would be enough of a kick in the teeth for Zii -- though Zii's vanity about her own talents might actually lead to her to accidentally encourage DiDi to accept, because Zii hates to look like a loser. But Sonya actually succeeding would add massive insult to injury. Do not underestimate Sonya's instinctive talent for exquisite multi-layered revenge. She's turned into everything that Zii claims to be.

Hmm. My current thinking is that, if DiDi can't resist, Sonya will say "Give me a few hours to prepare!", sprint off, and ask Peggy for advice on how the hell she can deliver. And Peggy's instinct will be to suggest a certain technologically-augmented sexual practice...
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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by KittyHat » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:28 am

And just like that, Sonya correctly determines that DiDi is shallow and cares only about her own "orgasme" and then, without hesitation, goes right for the jugular. I swear, she's becoming my favorite character.

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by OllieOrOlly » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:00 am

Get well soon, Giz!

Well, this was certainly unexpected, but in a good way. Sonya has experience in "hate-f**king," so in spite of her disdain for DiDi, she may very well have the passion that would top Zii's obsessive/"romantic" interaction. Sonya has shown attraction to DiDi in the past, however, it seemed only briefly, and she is overall immune to the so-called DiDi effect, thus adding to the possibility of providing a "bigger orgasme." Even if she can't deliver, it should be enough to fracture the sudden sentimentality Zii used to justify her lust; hell, even if DiDi doesn't follow up on the offer (though, since it is unlikely to happen, that means it probably will happen), the aforementioned fracture would occur all the same.
Way too little, too late with the apology there, Zii. Also, expected lack of sympathy, or at least, lack of tact for DiDi, but Zii either not noticing or caring to correct her, is the final nail.
Misery loves company, however, I'm hard pressed to be against Sonya's tactic here - she took a wound to the heart, and this is more or less karma.

On a tangent, as underhanded and selfish as Sonya was in sabotaging Zii's relationship with Erik, it was still Zii who chose the path (regardless of Sonya knowing which buttons to press and a bit of intoxication in the mix, Zii ultimately made the choice).

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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by worldshaking00 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:01 am

Interesting twist.

The thing in the comic that has me up in arms is Zii's comment on "clearing out for a bit" is in reality so insensitive. Zii doesn't think she's really done anything wrong, and thinks she can just come on back to Sonya's and live there like all is well? WTH Zii? Didi's "someone so lonely" comment is also a kick to the teeth and really not polite.

Zii could let Sonya's comment roll off of her, realizing it is Sonya just acting out while hurt. Zii could actually tell Sonya off too. Not sure where that will go. Didi's head turn could just be out of shock at hearing a bigger "orgasme", but I doubt it is entirely that. Didi is addicted to not just orgasms but the chase for better ones. For someone so buffoonish and 'sincere' in her admissions of love, I still don't think she really knows what love is.
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Re: 07-09-17 The Hard Way

Post by Spidrift » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:16 am

KittyHat wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:28 am
And just like that, Sonya correctly determines that DiDi is shallow and cares only about her own "orgasme" and then, without hesitation, goes right for the jugular. I swear, she's becoming my favorite character.
Mmm. I stand by my long-standing contention that Sonya is a smart woman who just keeps forgetting to turn her brain on in the morning. The funny thing is, despite everything. it's still Zii who caused Sonya to actually start to realise her potential. Which Zii may well come to regret.
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:00 am
Sonya has experience in "hate-f**king," so in spite of her disdain for DiDi, she may very well have the passion that would top Zii's obsessive/"romantic" interaction. Sonya has shown attraction to DiDi in the past, however, it seemed only briefly, and she is overall immune to the so-called DiDi effect, thus adding to the possibility of providing a "bigger orgasme."
Sonya isn't immune to the DiDi effect - or at least, she fully understands it. She was deeply impressed on their first meeting. But Sonya is highly competitive, and she naturally recognises that DiDi is, above all, competition -- so the more attracted she feels, the more hostile she'll become.

I can't see hate-fucking being the key to Sonya satisfying DiDi; that doesn't seem to be what DiDi needs. But who knows? We've seen a hint that DiDi has a latent submissive side, and with Peggy's likely advice (and loan of equipment), Sonya may show DiDi more about herself than the bimbo amazon could ever dream.
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:01 am
Not sure where that will go. Didi's head turn could just be out of shock at hearing a bigger "orgasme", but I doubt it is entirely that. Didi is addicted to not just orgasms but the chase for better ones. For someone so buffoonish and 'sincere' in her admissions of love, I still don't think she really knows what love is.
Of course she doesn't; she's not far off being a cute, sexy psychopath, and genuinely very dumb. The idea of an even better orgasm is bound to tempt her, at the very least.
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