29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by BlairFan » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:19 pm

Poor DiDi really needs that Big O. ;)

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by cheshire86 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:30 pm

Kudos to the Ma3 creators - that was a pretty master-class turn from babyface to heel for DiDi. I believe Jim Ross would call her a "heartless Jezebel" at this point. :)

Sonya's only hope now might be in the squared circle during the next pay-per-view event. Maybe even in a steel cage. My money's on a surprise run-in from Roxie. ;) Rivals in the ring and out?

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by Swiftwinged Doom » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:15 pm

I can't really bring myself to feel bad for Sonya here, as this is really just a case of bitch on bitch crime. Sonya seems to forget she wanted to use Gary to piss Yuki off and wanted to break them up for kicks. She ditched Gary as soon as it was inconvenient which was like a week to get with Zii and then had the gall to use him again for comfort when Zii was with Erik. I feel it's not really fair to dump on Didi too much either. She's looking for comfort and Zii has even told her that she's in 'lust' with her vs love, so comfort sex with no strings doesn't feel super inappropriate in this case
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by rogermart » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:40 pm

I don't think anyone is at wrong on this strip, 1st Sonya is right about Didi ditching Gary and then going for Zii, but Sonya is saying that only because she wants Zii by herself while pretending it's casual... Didi is right about apologizing to Zii, the problem is the how...

And let's not forget, Didi while being a product of her environment, she has a moral compass, she listened to Sonya and presented a good counterargument: If Sonya and Zii are unattached then she is not interfering anything, so it's Zii's choice, and Zii was about to speak a truth bomb to Didi until the Didi effect kicked in...
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by edisnooM » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:37 pm

Sonya does make a fair point here, but honestly neither she or Zii have a perfect track record in that area either.

I've been wondering for a while now if everyone could go together and get a deal on group therapy. Probably not with Kiley as that would most likely make things worse.

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by Error of Logic » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:24 pm

If Kiley gets within reach of Chastel, she may never break free again.

"Oh, Kiley! Mon coeur, we shall never be apart again! I forgive you everything, now come to my bosom!"

"WHY?! PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!"
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by JoybuzzerX » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:51 am

Sonya, she's just not that into you :p

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by KMFiredancer » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:00 am

To be completely honest I have no idea why I'm reading this comic anymore. I've been reading for years, and frustrated with Didi for a lot of it. People can only be oblivious for so long and her entitlement and refusal to actually acknowledge people's feelings until it's too late is more irritating than it is endearing or anything. She hurt Zii and she wants to make it up to her by "letting" Zii heal her now? Would she have even considered it if Gary had been enough for her? I don't understand. I'm going to be even more irritated if Zii just accepts this. It's not an apology. It's more "Didi wants but doesn't understand what she did or how her actions affected someone else". While a lot of the characters aren't shining examples of people I feel like Didi is one of the worst of them. My god.

There are times where Didi feels like a sociopath because she knows exactly what to say to get what she wants, yet is able to just effortlessly stomp on people's feelings and get away with it.

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by Spidrift » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:55 am

This is a comedy above anything else, not a soap opera/drama - though it has soap opera elements. And while soap operas compulsively give characters development arcs (if sometimes weird fake implausible ones), comedies tend, very broadly speaking, to be static. Everyone is trapped in Fawlty Towers or the world of 1920s upper-class idiots or a huge apartment in Manhattan, seemingly forever.

(Sticky Dilly Buns was much more of a soap opera/drama, note, though it was plenty funny.)

And DiDi seems to be stuck with being a comedy character, not a dramatic character. She's a fairly terrible person, and that's the joke. She may change eventually, but the writers have made it hard to see how. By comparison, Zii is relatively dramatic as a character, and Sonya even more so; they show definite signs of character development, if erratic and unreliable. Gary wants to be dramatic, but is stuck with being a walking black hole of character emptiness.
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by edisnooM » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:50 am

To be fair to Didi, while her behaviour is a definitely on the self-obsessed / jerky side, in this particular situation I feel like Zii was hoisted a bit by her own petard. She had previously told Didi that she was only in lust with her and then spent a bit of time pointedly trying not to to get intimate with her, but then as soon as she saw Didi broken up over Kiley she immediately swooped in (mentally tossing Gary aside) and tried to take advantage. No one is shining particularly bright here.

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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by AlexDenton » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:01 pm

Sony is being too polite. And I do hope in the next strip Zii will keep her head and tell Didi to leave.
That being said, Sonya and Zii's relationship isn't healthy as it is. It would be nice if, after Didi left, Zii opened up a bit and Sonya realised how hurt she is and that she needs space, not drama.
That being said, even though I believe Sonya is in fact in love with Zii, she also needs to sort out her own problems before anything good can happen between them. A lot of Sonya's reactions and actions tells me she's afraid, or at least worried way more than she should be. Figuring out why that is and how to not let that control her could be interesting.
But at the end of the day I think I'm looking into the wrong webcomic to read that kind of arcs. Ah well, I get some nice head-canons from it, it's enough :)
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by Spidrift » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:52 pm

Sonya knows that Zii gets jumpy at the idea of their relationship being long-term. She's now discovered that if she says it isn't, she gets lots of hot she-monkey sex, which (a) is good in itself and (b) keeps Zii around, which may mean that Zii eventually accepts that this relationship is serious. I don't think she's really scared, beyond the basic fear of losing the woman she loves or thinks she loves; she's just saying words that seem to work.

Or did until Frenchy Funbags stuck her big fat ... nose in again.
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by AlexDenton » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:08 pm

Well, "scared" is probably the wrong word, but ... I dunno, I feel like something along these lines is guiding her decisions. But maybe it's just the nature of this comic, characters aren't always consistent or make sense.

Or maybe it's the trade off of the change Zii initiated. The way I understand Sonya, she was living her life not the way she wanted, but rather the way it was proper to do so. Like she wanted to appear "normal" above all else. There didn't seem to be any strong emotional attachment with her boyfriend either.
But Zii changed that. And now Sonya seemingly enjoys life the way she wants, with very little restrictions. Sometimes that means she takes questionable actions and others people have to "suffer" the consequences, but generally she seems kind.
Now casual sex is nothing to be ashamed of, it's good, it's fine. But Sonya is lying about her feelings to keep having sex with the woman she loves. That feels really wrong.

But that kind of things can often be misinterpreted, I would just prefer if Zii had a chance to recover and then both of them figure out what they really want.
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Re: 29-07-17 Feel mon coeur

Post by Don Alexander » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:11 am

The Amygdala! Big words, DiDi!

I'm quite sure the President of the United States does not even know that word. (Until he is informed about it. The he will have the Greatest Amygdala, the Best Amygdala... :D )
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