27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by edisnooM » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:36 pm

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Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:38 am
She's basically seducing Zii into a long-term relationship (or trying to). Seduction always contains an element of manipulation. And if you condemn everyone who ever tries to manipulate other people in any way, you'll be left with just the introverted saints. Who are a rare breed.

Well, I guess there's always Rob, in this comic.
Well pardon my saying so but that is a pretty bleak outlook, I think it is absolutely possible for a relationship to exist without one party manipulating the other, and being up on some ivory pillar. Sonya isn't trying to seduce / woo Zii or win her over through "flowers and poetry", she is outright in her own minor way trying to manipulate her into something that Zii has frequently shot down, and the very reason she has to do that is because Zii has so often shot her down.

As I said before, any relationship that requires tricks, or schemes, or carefully worded conversational routes seems like a bad idea all round. I doubt that this actually will be a long term thing but that doesn't mean I have to like it while it's happening.

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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by Error of Logic » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:20 pm

Of course it doesn't. And you're right, relationships can exist without insipid mindgames. It's just that very, very few of the characters in this comic have the emotional maturity needed to initiate and maintain a proper relationship.
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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by Spidrift » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:48 pm

You say insipid mindgames, I say normal human interactions. It's just the dance we all dance. It's quite fun if everyone involved is grown up enough to know the rules.

(Well, they're more like guidelines...)
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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by edisnooM » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:51 am

Error of Logic wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:20 pm
Of course it doesn't. And you're right, relationships can exist without insipid mindgames. It's just that very, very few of the characters in this comic have the emotional maturity needed to initiate and maintain a proper relationship.
That is a fair point, but I am more of the mind to hope they achieve some amount of maturity than stay in the same old rut. Fools hope though that may be. :)

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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by 'J' » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:16 am

some of ya'll need to learn the distinction between 'manipulation' and 'influence'

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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by Don Alexander » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:15 pm

I do like Sonya's self-awareness of her schemes here. Seems rather more advanced than the girl who fell for "apply saliva directly to burn."
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Re: 27-07-17 Frenchie Funbags

Post by Spidrift » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:29 pm

I stand by my theory that Sonya has a perfectly good brain, she just often forgets to use it.
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