18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Discuss Ma3 here!

Moderators: Dave Zero1, Don Alexander, Giz, midgetshrimp

User avatar
vampire hunter D
Posts: 4095
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:19 pm
Location: Jasoom

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by vampire hunter D »

Osaru Sensei wrote:I'm hoping the "lights out" heralds the arrival of a third party in the wrestling ring...
I dunno, atracking in the dark doesnt seem Diana's style. Her ex-gf maybe.....
Pointless arguing is one of the three pillars upon which the Internet is built. The other two are of course cat pictures and porn.

Nightmaster
Posts: 16
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:25 am

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Nightmaster »

worldshaking00 wrote:
Spidrift wrote: Because DiDi will not allow her to. DiDi has massive force of personality reinforced by massive delusions. Kiley needs to break those delusions to get out of this intolerable situation.
Kiley came over to Didi/Gary/Zii's apartment. She had all the power then.

Kiley: "Gee, Didi. Thanks for letting me squeeze between your cleavage. The therapy helped me overcome my own self-insecurity, a bit. I am glad I was able to help you reach orgasm, and hopefully I helped teach you how to achieve an emotional level capable of allowing you to reach said orgasm. I sense you are too emotionally attached to me, transferring misplaced love onto me. My bringing you to orgasm was therapy for you - not love. I am sorry for not stopping this sooner when you were thinking I was your lesbian girlfriend. I don't love you. I used you as a therapeutic aid. I am aspiring to become a psychologist; our relationship is unethical if I keep allowing your transference to continue, and for me to be selfishly thinking of my own insecurities by taking advantage of you. Please take this as my telling you that our therapy - and that is all it was - is now over." <Turn and walk away, maybe booking time at the ranch.>

Or barring something so verbose, the stereotypical "It's not you. It's me." As I said before though, these options and ones similar don't lend themselves to as much comedic mischief as we have been treated to.

I grant you, Didi is an amazon. Kiley might have a self-preservational reason to keep Didi happy. But we've seen nothing to indicate that she'd expect Didi to get violent. Kiley dug herself into this hole by looking at Didi just for her bosom {like just about everyone in Ma3 - don't feel too bad Kiley}, and it is her poor decisions that have placed her into the intolerable situation. Now if Kiley is able to take her newfound wrestling knowledge and blend it somehow into how their therapy-relationship actually is (and how Kley is not her lover but her therapist) then I guess it I can forgive her actions, mostly. I still wouldn't have done this with an audience in the house - very poor manners & potential distractions to the actual healing process (e.g. peer pressure in the form of Maura/Tess & embarrassment to name a few).
Just a word to you about Didi: Obssession

Didi had since the begining of the comic an obssession about having a orgasm. Time and time again she didnt reach an orgasm, even with a woman (remember that one time with peggy?), and then... Miracle!!!... Kiley go and manage to make Didi reach an orgasm...

Since then Didi have deluded herself that Kiley is the true person for her. That delusion most probably will not allow Kiley to simple walk away as you described. Deluded people must be confronted with their delusions before they can get out of it and one of the ways to do that is to force the individual to re-think their values and concepts... in this case Didi's suposed feelings towards Kiley.

User avatar
Vitocap
Posts: 326
Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 5:02 am

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Vitocap »

Kiley/Didi couple is best couple.
Hope Kiley apologizes later for being teasie-meanie.
We, the old ghosts of Pizen Bluff, who still roam about this dead forum screaming imprecations at the characters and whatnot.

User avatar
Spidrift
Posts: 13180
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:11 pm

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Spidrift »

DiDi's obsessions also give her incredible force of personality. Kiley has found it literally impossible to break up with her because of that. The point of this scene is that Kiley has found a way to disrupt that obsessive force, and hence end the clusterfuck of a "relationship". Fortunately, she's accomplishing this with no more damage than some transient DiDi tears.

If you don't believe that someone could really, realistically be that psychologically forceful, call it webcomic magic. If you don't like that answer, you're on your own.
---------
Spidrift
"Brevior vita est quam pro futumentibus negotium agendo."
-- Motto of Hogshead Publishing of fond memory, and wise words to set your Foes List by.
Avatar misappropriated from the wonderful XKCD.

User avatar
worldshaking00
Posts: 1118
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:32 pm
Location: My little slice of Hell in Arizona

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by worldshaking00 »

Has Kiley really tried, though? I mean, she'll meet up with Didi with good intentions (ok, dubious useage there, but let's just assume such) to be therapeutic rather than faux-lesbian lover. I fully admit, Kiley gets swept up in the Didi-storm and invariably gets stuck performing for Didi's satisfaction. She seems either too meek to combat Didi's transference issues, or to polite to stop her, or too traumatized by her cleavage and tries to make the best of the situation (for her own insecurity needs).

Sure - I'll go with Kiley using her wits, finding a lever (wrestling) to start to pry Didi loose. Doesn't have to be a magic wand. I just think that Didi's hold isn't impossible to break, even by using conventional means I alluded to before, and especially for a potential psych candidate. But then, comedy takes things to extremes I guess, in order to get a chuckle.

I just hope it doesn't backfire into Kiley's face and Didi gets Kiley into the wrestling gym.
"Be excellent to each other." - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
"Like my old grand daddy used to say, 'The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect.'" - Chester Rush, Four Rooms
Chivalry isn't dead, it just followed wherever being lady-like went.

User avatar
Spidrift
Posts: 13180
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:11 pm

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Spidrift »

worldshaking00 wrote:Has Kiley really tried, though?
How the heck should anyone here know? We live in the wrong universe.

(Well, three people here may know; two writers and an editor. But they have wisely chosen not to enter this conversation.)

As the clusterfuck has continued until now, however, we may deduce that if Kiley has tried, it hasn't worked. As Kiley is mostly depicted as a sane and fairly likeable character, I choose to think that we're not meant to see her as a terrible person who'd rather hurt DiDi than let her down more lightly. If you insist on seeing her as a terrible person, though, feel free.
---------
Spidrift
"Brevior vita est quam pro futumentibus negotium agendo."
-- Motto of Hogshead Publishing of fond memory, and wise words to set your Foes List by.
Avatar misappropriated from the wonderful XKCD.

User avatar
Eisu
Posts: 1047
Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:20 am

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Eisu »

worldshaking00 wrote:Indeed.

It also seems to me that Kiley is using her psychology lessons/tests more like a weapon on Didi. Those don't look like sweat drops on Didi's face - that's tears folks.

I'm pretty sure those are sweat drops... like, those drops are drawn much further back than it would've been had it come down the corner of her eyes...

User avatar
Don Alexander
Dr. Ebil SithMod
Posts: 28238
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:26 am
Location: Under the arms of the ancient oak, where daylight hangs by a lunar noose...

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Don Alexander »

Osaru Sensei wrote:I'm hoping the "lights out" heralds the arrival of a third party in the wrestling ring...
YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A CALLIE EXPY


BUT IT WAS ME, DON!
ImageImage
Sithlord of the Sithling and best customer of McLovecraft's Image, in the business of keeping the little Platypus in business
Moderations in GREEN and signed by the DAMNed. I am not anonymous! Also, MODSMACK!! Image
Winner of the... 2010 Kilopost FRANKIE; 2010 Mad March Nom Off; 2010 Joker Cleavage Contest; 2010 Fan-Thing Contest; 2010 Mimic Contest (tied); 2011 Joker Cleavage Contest; 2011 Contest-for-the-next-Contest (tied)

User avatar
Spidrift
Posts: 13180
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:11 pm

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Spidrift »

I'm now trying to imagine a wrestling promotion with characters based on regulars from these boards.

Well, I'd find it more amusing than all the EC/MC expies, anyway.
---------
Spidrift
"Brevior vita est quam pro futumentibus negotium agendo."
-- Motto of Hogshead Publishing of fond memory, and wise words to set your Foes List by.
Avatar misappropriated from the wonderful XKCD.

User avatar
Osaru Sensei
Posts: 419
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:07 pm
Location: Sweden, Europe, Earth, Sol System, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster
Contact:

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Osaru Sensei »

vampire hunter D wrote:
Osaru Sensei wrote:I'm hoping the "lights out" heralds the arrival of a third party in the wrestling ring...
I dunno, atracking in the dark doesnt seem Diana's style. Her ex-gf maybe.....
Not attacking from the dark, just faciliating her alter-ego's "unauthorised" entrance in the ring. Slip away from the boss's side into the nearest empty hallway to switch costumes, then hit the lights and get up in the rafters for a zipline entrance.Honestly, it's like you don't even remember that you were there last time we spun this little headcanon.
Spidrift wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:16 pm
She is indeed a wonderful artist who could doubtless turn her hand to anything, but from what I've seen, I don't get the feeling that she's very interested in depicting some of those bits in all their wrinkly Lovecraftian glory.
Wanna chat with me in realtime? Click my webpage button. In case I happen to be online, anyways...
He who sees his own doom can better avoid its path. He who sees the doom of others can deliver it. –– Eldrad Ulthran, Farseer of Ulthwé
The very moment I understood Callie was my fav character.
High Priestess in the Church of Brasca

User avatar
worldshaking00
Posts: 1118
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:32 pm
Location: My little slice of Hell in Arizona

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by worldshaking00 »

Eisu wrote:I'm pretty sure those are sweat drops... like, those drops are drawn much further back than it would've been had it come down the corner of her eyes...
To me, they look like they are going down her cheek.
Spidrift wrote:How the heck should anyone here know? We live in the wrong universe.
With the nebulous stretches of time, I agree that we don't 100% know. We just have to go on what we've seen in the strip. WYSIWYG. I recall it that Kiley doesn't love Didi, but keeps helping her because she's not been not given a graceful way out due to Didi wanting to woo her one way or another (e.g. surprise cakes, sweet talk, nearly jumping her bones) as well as for Kiley's own continued self-therapy. To Kiley, it is clinical jilling Didi off and that is the price Kiley has to pay for her own therapy. Undoubtedly, Didi is smothering her. There might even be some emotional pangs of Kiley dumping Matt thrown into Kiley's decisions too. Wrestling might be a way to distract Didi so Kiley can ninja-vanish. Kiley could have chosen instead to support Didi's wrestling obsession and suggest she go hog-wild over it; it's possible that could have allowed Kiley to escape Didi.
"Be excellent to each other." - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
"Like my old grand daddy used to say, 'The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect.'" - Chester Rush, Four Rooms
Chivalry isn't dead, it just followed wherever being lady-like went.

User avatar
Vitocap
Posts: 326
Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 5:02 am

Re: 18-02-17 This is getting unhealthy

Post by Vitocap »

Write more stuff, people.
We, the old ghosts of Pizen Bluff, who still roam about this dead forum screaming imprecations at the characters and whatnot.

Post Reply