Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Tako » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:19 pm

Fluffy wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:04 pm
I'd personally have no issue with his/her sexual promiscuity if it wasn't for the fact that the majority of his lovers are supernaturally drugged into wanting him/her.
I don't care the amount of sex, but I care for the lack of respect and of self-respect involved...

What I dislike most is that all those people Teddy had sex with treated him like trash until they started to see her as a sexual object... it's SO absolutely degrading... it's like "I despise you and I would beat and bully you, but hey! now you are a walking sex toy I can use to pleasure myself, so let be friends!...", and Teddy goes along with it... it shows such a total lack of self-respect from Teddy's part, and of basic human decency from everybody else...!

If there were any real chance of this really helping save Chloe, I would give it a pass, but come on! Anybody with half a brain would realize it wouldn't work! And Teddy admits she kept doing it due to her own urges. And she could have sought men elsewhere, but she kept sleeping with those...

Everybody is stupid: Teddy for doing that. Chloe for refusing to have sex with an angel even once. And Abby... Oh God! Why does Abby even exist?! She is a living, walking insult to human intelligence and decency!

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by JoybuzzerX » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:22 pm

OllieOrOlly wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:11 am
DocMesa wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:56 am
You know, given the amount of highly manipulative/exploitative sex Teddy/i has had over the past few months, it wouldn't surprise me if he/she ended up roasting in the fires of the afterlife even without the pact. At least Chloe has the excuse that as a sex demon, she abides by sex demon morals, whereas Teddy/i still has a human soul with the human morals that tend to go with it.
I don't want to give credit to what is most likely laziness on the part of the writers, but devil's advocate (no pun intended), perhaps there is some intentional irony with a person accidentally getting damned to Hell and then through their actions to escape, eventually becomes more than deserving of being cast down to Hell.
Everything he did was to escape death. Then to pay for escaping said death. Even all the sex was about trying to find someone who could survive sleeping with Chloe or because he had aspects to him that weren't human anymore and he couldn't control them.

Not to mention, everything that made him less human, including the pact, weren't his doing.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by TwoWayStar » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:30 pm

i dont like this.

a 12 year old basically got kidnapped by demons.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Gotoh » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:53 pm

Absinthe Green wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:59 pm
By that logic, anyone slapping on a splash of aftershave, eau de toilette - hell, anyone who knowingly employs a deodorizing crystal - is by definition instigating Date Rape.</Reductio Ad Absurdum>
As long as you're linking to logical fallicies, you should try reading "false equivalency".

Deodorant doesn't override sexual preference, or free agency. Teddy's pheromones do, because we saw it happen and so did he.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by crimzontearz » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:34 am

Just when I thought I could not dislike Abby any more there she goes and proves me wrong


Do as you are freaking told you multiple Darwin award recipient sniveling little brat.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by LegendaryKroc » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:10 am

The last several years of this comic can be summed up in a single word: Lazy. Lazy, lazy, lazy.

The writer doesn't bother to make the characters interesting, likable or entertaining in their own right, instead slapping a bunch of tits and ass on anyone with a pussy and bodybuilder abs on anyone with a penis and calls it a day. He focuses all his energy on setting up and executing gags in the moment with the gags in question being really dumb, relying heavily on the alleged innate hilarity of ginormous boobs, having sex, sexuality being switched up and men getting Mr. Happys in their backdoors. Potentially interesting ideas are introduced, only to disappear for vast stretches and either not be touched on again or come back with arbitrary wrap-ups that suggest the writer just shrugged and gave up halfway through. Its genre has a reputation for being formulaic, by-the-numbers and cliché, yet somehow it still manages to get the fundamentals of that genre wrong because it faffs around not servicing the supposedly develop(ing/ed) relationships between its characters, then pulls something like this and expects us to treat the supposedly big moment with a completely unearned gravitas. But that's not the worst part; oh no, folks, I've saved the worst part for last.

I could go on another tear about that abominable preview button and the strip's lack of mention in the social media feed and the implications thereof, but I'd rather go back to this strip. That's emblematic of the strip's worst qualities these days. And by that I mean this: it's bad enough that the plot is meandering, the characters are a bunch of degenerate assholes and the rules of how the world works are just made up as we go along, but what's really galling is that anytime the characters begin to reconsider their current course, have internal debates about what kind of people they are or come close to moving the plot along in a positive way, the writer completely chickens out and backs away from it, with lame excuses and gratuitous, unsexy boob and ass shots. Like that stripper who OD'd and got resuscitated by Teddi in a way that suggests the writer doesn't know anything about CPR. What's that, reviving people who are supposed to be dead sets off a chain of disaster dominoes and gets Al put on a watchlist for failing to reap her? Well, let's not follow up on that at all; far better to just bring her back for a single strip after like 20 or so in-betweeners and mention her revival as proof of Teddy's innate decency! Moreover, by rights there is no reason for the "get Teddy a girlfriend" plot to have taken this long to resolve, and even less reason for it to have needed Teddy to turn back into a girl and become two separate people with the one mind, but here we are, and the writer expects the totally undeveloped relationship between Teddy and Chloe, which he could have properly developed to make this would-be tragic moment feel earned in HALF the time he squandered on Pandora's ridiculous "prank", to mean something to us. You can't spend a minuscule amount of time setting up a relationship, have the characters barely interact for a LOT of the project, and then expect us to just accept a big development in that relationship towards the home stretch. That's not how it works.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Master of 7s » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:22 am

This strip literally makes no sense. What the hell does Teddy/i have to be sorry for? After the few months of comic time this story has taken place in, are we expected to believe that some kind of emotional bond has taken place?

The contract has been fulfilled despite Chloe's unyielding incompetence. There is no justification for this reaction other than lazy writing.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by vampire hunter D » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:58 am

I can't enjoy this forum anymore...
Pointless arguing is one of the three pillars upon which the Internet is built. The other two are of course cat pictures and porn.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Valkog » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:20 pm

vampire hunter D wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:58 am
I can't enjoy this forum anymore...
Look, I'm sorry about the AXE joke, alright? I get it, that's an old meme and everyone was sick of it before it started. I'll try harder, next time.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by brasca » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Master of 7s wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:22 am
This strip literally makes no sense. What the hell does Teddy/i have to be sorry for? After the few months of comic time this story has taken place in, are we expected to believe that some kind of emotional bond has taken place?

The contract has been fulfilled despite Chloe's unyielding incompetence. There is no justification for this reaction other than lazy writing.
Teddi has done a lot to save Chloe’s life. Now if she was reacting this way about Pandora I would agree with this assessment.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Fluffy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:11 pm

brasca wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:51 pm
Master of 7s wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:22 am
This strip literally makes no sense. What the hell does Teddy/i have to be sorry for? After the few months of comic time this story has taken place in, are we expected to believe that some kind of emotional bond has taken place?

The contract has been fulfilled despite Chloe's unyielding incompetence. There is no justification for this reaction other than lazy writing.
Teddi has done a lot to save Chloe’s life. Now if she was reacting this way about Pandora I would agree with this assessment.
What had he done, exactly, to help Chloe?

He slept around with a bunch of guys, trying to find the perfect sacrificial victim to punch her V card in his place - despite the fact he was repeatedly told by a sexually experienced succubus (Pandora) that a mortal male would not suffice/would die horrifically. And how many times did he need to be reminded what his intended purpose was for sleeping with all these people, in the first place?

The only real potentially helpful thing he did in order to save Chloe's life was injecting himself with angel blood in a risky gamble to make himself strong enough to - finally - take responsibility for his part of the contract and punch her V card himself; which he almost immediately got distracted from because of the whole God/split into two thing and seemed to only remember Chloe was still part of his life when a drunken Charity pointed out his link to her was gone.

And it still doesn't answer the question of how they ever had enough time to spend together in order to establish any kind of bond to get this kind of reaction from either one of them now that the link has been broken. Honestly, most of the time they spent together, Chloe was making Teddy's life a living Hell and Teddy wasn't enjoying any of it. How does one build a strong, loving connection based on that?
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by capicoli » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:54 pm

iirc the reason he thought jocks is because Pandora said something along the lines of heroes can pull it off. I don't remember her saying no mortal can do it. As for Chloe it doesn't really make sense to for Teddy to be blamed. Even if Teddy's plan didn't work he still did it for her, it was just a mistake. Surely if Chloe can get a pass for ruining his childhood crush, breaking up his parents, and killing him this is probably fine.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Devil Girl » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:00 pm

Uh... I'm so confused... I was actually starting to enjoy this storyline. Can we have please Teddy's sister killed off or permanently shipped away to Abu Dhabi (or her mother's custody) or something? Her character is the most problematic thing in this strip: from her disturbingly young age and the writers' attempts to sexualize her—to her super stupid choices (which I know far younger kids smart enough not to make) making the plots way more horrible than they should be. I was really hopeful as we saw the story going somewhere, and now it makes completely no sense—especially given it was Chloe's plan to get Teddy a girlfriend—and low and behold—it worked! Did Chloe's brain/body get taken over by a different entity? W.T.F.?????

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Devil Girl » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:15 pm

Actually, I'd just like to see Al, male Teddy, and Naomi go off to have sexy interesting adventures. The rest of the cast can disappear (including Chloe as she's some kind of swapped out pod person at this point), and it would really improve the strip.

Geez, I adored Chloe, but she's become such of shell of the cute and clever (though yet to be street-smart) character from the beginning of the strip. The only thing that would make sense is the Chloe we see turned out to be an evil shape shifter the whole time, and the real one is shipped off somewhere moving on with her life (preferably back at the Eerie Cuties high school).

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-12-18 You Really Hurt Her

Post by Error of Logic » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:23 pm

Nnno, an evil shapeshifter would probably have been more efficient.

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