Dangerously Chloe 25-10-18 Had an Awakening

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dmra wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:48 pm
We only saw that one person enjoyed it. How likely is it really that all the members of a football team were closet bisexuals/gay? And if even one of them wasn't then Teddy must have done something to them to make them go along with him. Whether that was force or supernatural means who knows but it's a hell of a stretch to think that all of them gave consent in any meaningful sense of the term.
They're webcomic characters, in an age where the standard trope is that everybody is secretly (even from themselves) homosexual, and just needs to be hit on by somebody to turn on the gay. Just happened in EGS, too.

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A lot of people being judgey judgey about strip clubs and strippers. Being a stripper doesn’t make one sleezy. It’s not inherently a sleezy act. And Teddi is “a god,” which means sex, temptation, and sexual dancing are all par for the course. Teddi may even amass her/his own sect of followers with Charity first in line. As someone who loves to study ancient religions and women’s roles in them, nothing here seems out of place. I find it fascinating, although I’m not sure if it’s the writer’s intention or just a happy coincidence. Personally, I’d love to see Teddi shake up the traditional Abrahamic view of god and go a little ancient world.

That said, I really don’t get where Teddy falls in here. We haven’t seen enough of him but I find the icons a little confusing—bat wings typically depict evil in Judeo-Christian themes and angel wings depict good. But if both are capable of using lust, is it only the end results that matters (Teddi caused people to “repent” or reach out to loved ones, Teddy fucked a bunch of guys blind for so seeable purpose beyond his own pleasure)?

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dmra wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:48 pm

We only saw that one person enjoyed it. How likely is it really that all the members of a football team were closet bisexuals/gay? And if even one of them wasn't then Teddy must have done something to them to make them go along with him. Whether that was force or supernatural means who knows but it's a hell of a stretch to think that all of them gave consent in any meaningful sense of the term.
Having a homosexual experience doesn’t make one gay or even bi. It easily could be chalked up to experimenting or curiosity. We only know of one who came back for more. Does Teddy exude a pheromone that makes a straight man want to experiment? Maybe. For it to be consent, it all depends on how strong those pheromones are. If it’s just enough to make one a little aroused, that’s fine. If it’s so much that they immediately want him, that’s pretty rapey.

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Fereshte wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:35 am
dmra wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:48 pm

We only saw that one person enjoyed it. How likely is it really that all the members of a football team were closet bisexuals/gay? And if even one of them wasn't then Teddy must have done something to them to make them go along with him. Whether that was force or supernatural means who knows but it's a hell of a stretch to think that all of them gave consent in any meaningful sense of the term.
Having a homosexual experience doesn’t make one gay or even bi. It easily could be chalked up to experimenting or curiosity. We only know of one who came back for more. Does Teddy exude a pheromone that makes a straight man want to experiment? Maybe. For it to be consent, it all depends on how strong those pheromones are. If it’s just enough to make one a little aroused, that’s fine. If it’s so much that they immediately want him, that’s pretty rapey.
That and Teddy seemed to be the bottom in those encounters so those guys had to be fairly interested if they had trouble walking the next day.

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Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:29 am

That and Teddy seemed to be the bottom in those encounters so those guys had to be fairly interested if they had trouble walking the next day.
Not necessarily. We never got shown Teddy in the "act" just before or after it. And it's a standard comedy trope that anal sex can make it difficult to walk the next day. It's not clear in the comic whether the people in the distance are having problems walking because their legs are shaky from exhaustion or because they're aching for some other reason.
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... Even if Teddi means well, and although she's had some positive effect on her surroundings, I doubt she'll ever be more than a "fertility" goddess (not to use another term).

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For what's it worth Ishtar the Assyrian goddess who was often linked to fertility was sometimes shown with wings.

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Wasn't she also a goddess of war, with the tendency to visit misfortune on or outright kill lovers she decided she was done with?

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She's a female. We're always told that women are good at multitasking so she's just another example. But yes Charity might want to take care not to get on Teddi's wrong side just in case. The Old Testament God wasn't the only one with a reputation for smiting.

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Fereshte wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:35 am
dmra wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:48 pm

We only saw that one person enjoyed it. How likely is it really that all the members of a football team were closet bisexuals/gay? And if even one of them wasn't then Teddy must have done something to them to make them go along with him. Whether that was force or supernatural means who knows but it's a hell of a stretch to think that all of them gave consent in any meaningful sense of the term.
Having a homosexual experience doesn’t make one gay or even bi.
In this case, it did - at least for Chris; judging by his expression/response when Teddi turned him down after weeks of saying yes to boning.
For it to be consent, it all depends on how strong those pheromones are. If it’s just enough to make one a little aroused, that’s fine. If it’s so much that they immediately want him, that’s pretty rapey.
With the exceptions of Al and Pandora, none of Teddy's lovers wanted anything to do with him prior to his gender reassignment 'surgery' and he used their sudden interest in him to his advantage. So, yes - very much rapey; considering Teddy was well aware that - at least in the girls case - they weren't in their right minds and sexed them up, anyway - justifying the act as 'helping them get it out of their system'. 8-|
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:29 am
That and Teddy seemed to be the bottom in those encounters so those guys had to be fairly interested if they had trouble walking the next day.
Um...people having trouble walking the next day after a vigorous sexual experience usually point to 'them' being the bottoms; not the tops.

Also, seeing as Teddi was the one calling out the instructions while sexy times with Al was going on - for all anyone knows - Teddy was topping Al and Teddi was experiencing a whole new sexual experience due to her connection with her male half; causing her to calling out instructions as it was happening (unlikely - but you never know with this comic).
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FuzzyFace wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:22 pm
dmra wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:48 pm
We only saw that one person enjoyed it. How likely is it really that all the members of a football team were closet bisexuals/gay? And if even one of them wasn't then Teddy must have done something to them to make them go along with him. Whether that was force or supernatural means who knows but it's a hell of a stretch to think that all of them gave consent in any meaningful sense of the term.
They're webcomic characters, in an age where the standard trope is that everybody is secretly (even from themselves) homosexual, and just needs to be hit on by somebody to turn on the gay. Just happened in EGS, too.
Uh, that is not what happened in EGS..it was foreshadowed and she actually SAID how she felt about girls AND what she was looking for in a partner. It was not just "hit on by somebody to turn on the gay" jeez dude.

Comic-wise... LOL.....so. Are Teddi and Teddy going to have sex with Chloe so she survives?? Because as an angel and an incubus, the angel could keep her from killing him and the incubus could help with the whole "needs a male" thing and theyd BOTH be Teddi/y so then the contract is fulfilled!

right? xD

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TwoWayStar wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:40 am
Comic-wise... LOL.....so. Are Teddi and Teddy going to have sex with Chloe so she survives?? Because as an angel and an incubus, the angel could keep her from killing him and the incubus could help with the whole "needs a male" thing and theyd BOTH be Teddi/y so then the contract is fulfilled!

right? xD
'cept it seems to be implied that Teddy is gay now (seeing as there's been no mention of him tracking down his female lovers for an evening plowing as he had with the jocks); so may have no interest in boning Chloe, at this point.
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dmra wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:54 am
For what's it worth Ishtar the Assyrian goddess who was often linked to fertility was sometimes shown with wings.
Ishtar is the Babylonian name for Inanna (Sumerian) and she was the goddess of sex and war. She was a general bad ass and the first god (we know of) to threaten other gods with a zombie apocalypse. Gilgamesh accused her of ruining her lovers, typically through domestication, but she didn’t kill lovers when she was done with them, only if they wronged her. She could be quite vengeful. All that said, almost all ancient gods and goddesses were fertility gods, so being “just a fertility god” isn’t really a thing. Fertility gods are often linked to both life and death so it’s no small thing. Death gods are fertility gods, for example. If Teddi becomes a fertility god—which would be incredibly interesting but I sort of doubt it will happen—there’s no telling what she could do.

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dmra wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:11 am
brasca wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:29 am

That and Teddy seemed to be the bottom in those encounters so those guys had to be fairly interested if they had trouble walking the next day.
Not necessarily. We never got shown Teddy in the "act" just before or after it. And it's a standard comedy trope that anal sex can make it difficult to walk the next day. It's not clear in the comic whether the people in the distance are having problems walking because their legs are shaky from exhaustion or because they're aching for some other reason.
Yes which is why I say it seemed that Teddy was the bottom. We really don't know what occurred other than vigorous sexual activity, but the assumption seems to be that Chris and the football team were forced into something against their will. Maybe Teddy invites them to fulfill some latent gay fantasy by cutting through all the heteronormative culture imposed on them. If ever there was a time that they wanted to have sex with another male now is their chance to do what they please. It doesn't mean they're gay, but given the chance of a lifetime to experiment with no strings attached and some took it to the limit.

For Teddi it seems to be different. As far as we can see she hasn't had sex with anyone. I don't think it's that Teddy and Teddi only prefer men currently because she'd have problem finding one. She's certainly no prude, but may operate under a rule of look, but don't touch since it appears that her friends will all be administering lap dances for Charity.

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Again is it really likely that every single member of a football squad had some kind of secret homosexual fantasy life? Or is it more reasonable to think that some aspect of Teddy's evolved form overrode their usual inclinations?

But I suspect we're giving more thought to this than the writers who probably just wanted a cheap joke to finish the strip on.

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