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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by renmei » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:37 am

Richie wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:32 am
Split in a Succubus and Incubus?
Incubus craves women, not men. It's just a male succubus. I think this is slightly different.

I think this is part of his inability to control his body. With the succubus side you'd get uncontrollable urges for sexual energy, right? So this might just be Teddi's lust being acted out through Teddy while they are sleeping. We know he was having big urges and slept with Al, but Al doesn't give succubi any energy. So the demon side awakens, Teddy sneaks out and finds some male energy so that the succubus aspect is happy. He's probably not even aware he's doing it.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by JoybuzzerX » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:57 am

Hmmm...he forcibly grabbed a guy who said he wasn't gay, then continued to forcibly kiss him, which lead to sex. Is that considered proper fanservice?

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by OllieOrOlly » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:07 am

JoybuzzerX wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:57 am
Hmmm...he forcibly grabbed a guy who said he wasn't gay, then continued to forcibly kiss him, which lead to sex. Is that considered proper fanservice?
As I understand the term "fanservice," is that it refers to "stylised nudity," over meaning what it sounds like. So, Ted Weinstein-ing Chris could be considered """fanservice""" in spite of its skeeviness.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by blood_and_cocopops » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:28 am

As far as this comic goes, the man-service has been pretty tame, both gay sex scenes have been 100% off screen, with a kiss one panel then an after glow scene the next pannel, compared to the full comic strip of girl on girl action we usually get for a sex scene. This also is full of plot development, things are happening here, not just the sex. And the sex actually holds weight to it, it has potential to lead to more story and conflicts. Its not just off handed fanservice for the sake of it as we have seen so many times before.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by Fluffy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:32 am

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It's clearly the appendix to Menage a 3. Apparently porn comics sell better than ones with stories...?
Oh, please. Ma3 has more plot than this tripe.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by OllieOrOlly » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:39 am

Fluffy wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:32 am
FuzzyFace wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:33 am
It's clearly the appendix to Menage a 3. Apparently porn comics sell better than ones with stories...?
Oh, please. Ma3 has more plot than this tripe.
Even the unlikeable characters of Ma3 are at least interesting.

Edit. An exaggeration on my part, perhaps, however, the point being it is rarely boring, at least no where near as dull as DC
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by Fluffy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:42 am

Master of 7s wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:48 am
It's a character driven series of slice of life narratives with a weak overarching link. Full stop. It's never been more than that, it's never aspired to be more than that. So I'm honestly not sure why you're complaining as if the story quality has gone down.
Because it honestly has.

In the beginning, there was some actual plot. Chloe doing her best to find a way to get Teddy out of this ill begotten contract and the hijinx that ensued as a result. It was weak, sure - but it still was entertaining.

But, ever since the Valentine's day arc; the comic has taken a nose dive and entered smut territory, exclusively. There were sexual elements prior to that, but they were very mild by comparison to what we've seen over the last couple of years.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by dmra » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:49 am

On the thin plotline it's worth remembering that "Oh my goddess" managed to get 40 odd volumes out of exactly the same plot device - human man accidentally bound to a supernatural woman. So done well even thin plots can be highly successful and highly entertaining.

And let's not forget that while the comic is partly about succubi it's also been about humans and angels. But the story lines around both of the latter have increasingly been about sex too.

Where is Naomi with her interest in Teddy because she thinks he's an alien? For that matter where is the Teddy who thought it was a good idea to break into a museum to take apart a mechanical duck? What happened to Prudence and to a lesser extent Zachuriel? One was a friend to Abby one was Pandora's boyfriend. Both have disappeared.

And part of the initial appeal to me of the comic was that Chloe was a very atypical succubus. She seemed to be a kind and romantic type of person as much as she was a sex demon. Which was a potentially very good source for stories as the two sides of her nature conflicted. Now she's tied up in a basement and basically forgotten about by all the other characters who are far more concerned with having sex than sorting out the current problems.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by OllieOrOlly » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:08 am

Fluffy wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:42 am
Master of 7s wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:48 am
It's a character driven series of slice of life narratives with a weak overarching link. Full stop. It's never been more than that, it's never aspired to be more than that. So I'm honestly not sure why you're complaining as if the story quality has gone down.
Because it honestly has.

In the beginning, there was some actual plot. Chloe doing her best to find a way to get Teddy out of this ill begotten contract and the hijinx that ensued as a result. It was weak, sure - but it still was entertaining.

But, ever since the Valentine's day arc; the comic has taken a nose dive and entered smut territory, exclusively. There were sexual elements prior to that, but they were very mild by comparison to what we've seen over the last couple of years.
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When Chloe was actually a character, not the equivalent of a lamp...


(Sorry for ranting ahead. It got a bit out of hand thinking about stuff)

The smut is half of the problem, beating a dead horse here and maybe preaching to the choir, yet the fairly graphic sexual content (especially for "PG-13") became even more tedious by the fact it took the place of any potential story progression. It doesn't seem like "keeping faithful to succubi mythology" by showing cheap sleaze, but rather a lazy substitute for actual effort in writing. Seems even worse because potentially interesting characters and plot threads have been tossed to the side in favour of the same crass crap (how is Naomi and her angel faring? Have the demon hunters regrouped with a larger force? Why isn't God or the Devil or whatever equivalent doing anything about the disruption of balance?).
It would've been cliche, but the "geeky outcast gaining confidence" was the route I thought Teddy was going to travel through, but he didn't overcome his weaknesses nor learn anything - he mutated into a lust creature that *stopped* his/her former bullies by being a "hot girl," mind-influencing pheromones and having sex with them, so not only did he not develop, but the tormentors never stopped through a newfound respect or even free will, only because of pheromones and their former victim being exceptional at intercourse.

Going into conjecture, yet the way PixieTrix omits DC updates from social media feeds suggests that they've given up even pretending to care... or maybe are just embarrassed by it?

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by Fluffy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:10 am

dmra wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:49 am
Where is Naomi with her interest in Teddy because she thinks he's an alien? For that matter where is the Teddy who thought it was a good idea to break into a museum to take apart a mechanical duck? What happened to Prudence and to a lesser extent Zachuriel? One was a friend to Abby one was Pandora's boyfriend. Both have disappeared.
Don't forget Lucretia; who had a serious crush on her/was Hellbent on getting even with Chloe for that itchy sweater incident.

Keeping my fingers crossed that she comes to Chloe's rescue and releases her on the unsuspecting world.
And part of the initial appeal to me of the comic was that Chloe was a very atypical succubus. She seemed to be a kind and romantic type of person as much as she was a sex demon. Which was a potentially very good source for stories as the two sides of her nature conflicted. Now she's tied up in a basement and basically forgotten about by all the other characters who are far more concerned with having sex than sorting out the current problems.

Isn't it funny? When Chloe went out on a mission to find Teddy a girlfriend, she never strayed from her mission (until the end of the Valentine's story arc, that is; where the idiot ball hit her square in the face and she deliberately sabotaged a potential hookup between Teddy and Trianna). But, when the roles were reverse and teddy went on a mission to find Chloe a boyfriend, he'd repeatedly get distracted and need to be reminded what he had to do.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by lordoffiling » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:12 pm

Can we discuss the implications of what this page presented us with? I promise we can go back to complaining about sex turning up in a comic about sex demons in a minute.

The sudden change, waking in this state with dark eyes and blackened text bubbles seem almost to indicate that someone/something else is inhabiting Teddy here.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by OllieOrOlly » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:29 pm

lordoffiling wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:12 pm
Can we discuss the implications of what this page presented us with? I promise we can go back to complaining about sex turning up in a comic about sex demons in a minute.

The sudden change, waking in this state with dark eyes and blackened text bubbles seem almost to indicate that someone/something else is inhabiting Teddy here.
There hasn't been any clear opportunity for anything to possess him (maybe something from the halo/scythe thing? But those don't appear sentient); it appears more like the pollution of so many mystical bloods have coalesced into a new entity, and his power has activated, rather than any third-party possessing creature. Perhaps the power is controlling him, but that seems to have been the case for ages.

... On another note, I understand that you're being facetious about the complaints as to undermine them, yet let me put it this way - Someone sees a few beautiful butterflies in the garden. Sometime later, they see a cocoon and are looking forward to seeing what kind of new butterfly shall emerge. Instead, it turns out to be a disgusting moth; even though someone becomes aware that the moth will keep clumsily flapping into their face, that doesn't make them less annoyed by the fact it isn't a butterfly and that it continues to emphasise that fact by shedding its dusty wings on their face again and again.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by meps98 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:52 pm

lordoffiling wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:12 pm
Can we discuss the implications of what this page presented us with? I promise we can go back to complaining about sex turning up in a comic about sex demons in a minute.

The sudden change, waking in this state with dark eyes and blackened text bubbles seem almost to indicate that someone/something else is inhabiting Teddy here.
Yes, let's talk about the story.
Not only do the dark eyes indicate some kind of "other" consciousness but there was nothing shown that Teddi shared in what Demon Teddy was up to. That may pop up in the next strip but it could also be the beginnings of their separation. A good and evil division would not bode well. I'm also assuming a succubus Teddy is packing the usual succubus pheromones which, when he/she was Teddi, had the girls falling all over themselves to have sex with her/him. It now may affect the male population just the same for Teddy when in succubus mode.
Personally, I think Teddy's current state is not an inhabitation by an outside force/being but a reflection of one of his many sides or personalities (male, female, reaper, succubus, angel, etc.) that have not yet been integrated into a single whole demi-god being. It's a part of his evolution. He/she could cause quite a lot of havoc while in this evolving state. Teddy/Teddi needs to be locked down (if that is even a possibility) ASAP.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by Error of Logic » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:10 pm

Things would have been so much easier if Charity had found a way to toss the ascending Teddi/y into the Void, where they/it could have finished gestating without risk to innocent bystanders...
Now we have this thing roamong the streets unmonitored.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 4-10-18 You Never Called

Post by Fluffy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:34 pm

Error of Logic wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:10 pm
Things would have been so much easier if Charity had found a way to toss the ascending Teddi/y into the Void, where they/it could have finished gestating without risk to innocent bystanders...
Now we have this thing roamong the streets unmonitored.
And if it's happening to Teddy, who's to say it isn't happening to Teddi?

Weird how when Charity was checking their stats; something like this didn't pop up on screen.
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