Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Mackus » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:09 pm

christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
Teddy is a teenager. It’s not his job to raise his little sister. We rightfully don’t expect teens to be able to take care of themselves longterm, let alone young family members. Lighten up.
Agree.
christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
Given Chloe’s concealment, presence, and attitude, assuming she’s responsible is not a stretch, even if it’s wrong. This is an awful moment for him. Cut him a little slack while he processes it.
A lot of people show complete lack of understanding of basic human nature when they are surprised that when characters are suddenly thrusted into unfamiliar situation they're not acting 100% logically.

So far, all Teddi did was ask "what did you do" with angry tone.
Well, its quite probable that Chloe will now put her foot in her mouth, saying something that anyone would be bound to interpret as admission of guilt and lack of remorse.
OTOH, if she somehow kept her calm, she could say "Abby injected herself with my and Kimmie's blood when nobody was looking because she wanted to grow boobs. I tried to undo it, but Slash-stab stopped me." - Odds of this happening are near to nil.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Gotoh » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:46 pm

christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
Teddy is a teenager. It’s not his job to raise his little sister. We rightfully don’t expect teens to be able to take care of themselves longterm, let alone young family members. Lighten up.
And yet teenagers have either raised, or helped raised their younger siblings in a responsible manner. I helped raise my two younger brothers while I was in highschool, including working a part-time job after school.
christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
It’s not hypocritical at all for him to be appalled that his 12 year old sister might engage in behavior she’s not emotionally equipped for just because he’s doing it for what he has convinced himself is a noble purpose.
Setting up some unsuspecting schmuck to be eviscerated in his place (4th panel) is noble? :-\

And yes, it's hypocritical of him to get upset with Chloe, when Teddy's not only doing it himself, he previously said he wished Abby could share the same experience. Except now he's going back on that, because of what that experience includes.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by JoybuzzerX » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:00 pm

The true fault, lies with Chloe then the mom and lastly the dad.

Chloe was not only the cause of the parents breakup, but she got in a contract with Teddy, who didn't even know he was making a contract. However, there's no reason the mom couldn't stay around the kids and there's no reason the dad couldn't get a new job that kept him closer to the kids (or gotten them tutors and had them live on the road with him).

At least with Abby, she knew she was signing a contract. Teddy didn't even realize her was signing a contract.

Teddy's a child, not much older than his sister (3-4 year difference).

If Teddy wanted to do anything, there's only one thing he can do and that's just have sex with Chloe. Chloe on the other hand is a hell demon with no real care, even if she tries to pretend otherwise, who's centuries (decades maybe) old. If she did care, she'd have left long ago.

Chloe is the root of all evil in this comic :p

Teddy's the victim. He can't even control what he's doing, because he has the succubus urges he can't control and being a teen isn't likely helping him any.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Fluffy » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:20 pm

Teddy has full control over what he's doing.

The succubus body is not causing Teddy to act the way he is; Teddy is making the conscious decision to not only sleep with all those people, but to ignore the fact that the only reason that these people (specifically the girls) are sleeping with him in the first place is because an outside influence is controlling them - something that he is very well aware of.
Gotoh wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:46 pm

And yes, it's hypocritical of him to get upset with Chloe, when Teddy's not only doing it himself, he previously said he wished Abby could share the same experience. Except now he's going back on that, because of what that experience includes.
I'm pretty sure, when Teddy said that, he meant Abby living life as a boy so she could understand how the other half lives.

Not that it would be any better than what she has now; as being a hormonal teenaged boy would have been a whole new brand of Hell to deal with.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Maechris » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:36 pm

Fluffy wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:20 pm
Teddy has full control over what he's doing.

The succubus body is not causing Teddy to act the way he is; Teddy is making the conscious decision to not only sleep with all those people, but to ignore the fact that the only reason that these people (specifically the girls) are sleeping with him in the first place is because an outside influence is controlling them - something that he is very well aware of.
Actually, that is not entirely true :

http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips- ... _Mish_Mash

Although Teddy's still to blame for some of his actions, certainly.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Fluffy » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:54 pm

From what I recall, the succubus skin doesn't make Teddy actively seek out men. Prior to his decision in finding Chloe the 'perfect boyfriend', Teddy was largely rejecting the guys who used to make his life a living Hell. The only thing the succubus did was make it damned near impossible for Teddy to keep his legs closed while he was actively seducing the guys.

So, yeah - the succubus part of him has no affect on what decision he makes.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by meps98 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:59 pm

Mackus wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:09 pm
christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
Teddy is a teenager. It’s not his job to raise his little sister. We rightfully don’t expect teens to be able to take care of themselves longterm, let alone young family members. Lighten up.
Agree.
christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
Given Chloe’s concealment, presence, and attitude, assuming she’s responsible is not a stretch, even if it’s wrong. This is an awful moment for him. Cut him a little slack while he processes it.
A lot of people show complete lack of understanding of basic human nature when they are surprised that when characters are suddenly thrusted into unfamiliar situation they're not acting 100% logically.

So far, all Teddi did was ask "what did you do" with angry tone.
Well, its quite probable that Chloe will now put her foot in her mouth, saying something that anyone would be bound to interpret as admission of guilt and lack of remorse.
OTOH, if she somehow kept her calm, she could say "Abby injected herself with my and Kimmie's blood when nobody was looking because she wanted to grow boobs. I tried to undo it, but Slash-stab stopped me." - Odds of this happening are near to nil.
Very well put. We also need to keep in mind that Teddi's presence in the household was a risk to his/her life. He/she was limited in the opportunity to supervise Abby and, therefore, was forced to rely on Chloe's help. Chloe's desires and intentions to properly care for Abby were never in doubt but she has her own limitations in both experience and capabilities. Blame for the current situation can be spread to cover both parents, Teddy, Chloe, Kimmie and Abby. All, except Abby, had good intentions but failed to anticipate the clear potential problems. Abby is just immature and a little stupid as icing on the cake.

Of course, without all of the above, there would be no comic strip.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Gotoh » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 pm

Mackus wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:09 pm
A lot of people show complete lack of understanding of basic human nature when they are surprised that when characters are suddenly thrusted into unfamiliar situation they're not acting 100% logically.
No one expects Teddy (or anyone else) to be logical all the time, but at least some modicum of common sense isn't too much to ask. Especially when we've seen other characters Teddy's age who also found themselves in unexpected situations and they still showed better reasoning than he does.

examples: Ace and Brooke, Tiffany, Faith, etc.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by otaku247 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:35 pm

Don't forget Chloe has been enabling (albeit from a parental or brooding emotional response she got when she saw the cutesy newly winged-and-devil-tailed) Abby by showing her the ropes and stuff with her newly acquired appendages, then she acted in defence of Abby against the hunters, which ultimately led her to teleport them both to where the whole slash-stab escapade could take place. So generally speaking even though it was for altruistic reasons Chloe is actually responsible for putting Abby into the specific position of Abby being able to choose unwisely to end up in the pickle that Teddi now sees. Yes there are other factors that made Abby want to indulge in body altering blood-and-ectoplasmic hooha with a syringe, that are not Chloe's fault, but she is undeniably the cause of putting Abby in direct temptation from Slash-stab's contract.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Varanus » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:45 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:46 pm
Setting up some unsuspecting schmuck to be eviscerated in his place (4th panel) is noble? :-\
In Teddy's defense, he had convinced himself that said schmuck would only be set up if they were someone who wouldn't die. If this were not the case (i.e. he was prepared to sacrifice someone else) he wouldn't have given up on the plan once Pandora told him even the manliest guy he had located was not enough. Teddy was likewise convinced there was no way for he himself to do it without dying.
JoybuzzerX wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:00 pm
Chloe was not only the cause of the parents breakup, but she got in a contract with Teddy, who didn't even know he was making a contract. However, there's no reason the mom couldn't stay around the kids and there's no reason the dad couldn't get a new job that kept him closer to the kids (or gotten them tutors and had them live on the road with him).

At least with Abby, she knew she was signing a contract. Teddy didn't even realize her was signing a contract.

Teddy's a child, not much older than his sister (3-4 year difference).

If Teddy wanted to do anything, there's only one thing he can do and that's just have sex with Chloe. Chloe on the other hand is a hell demon with no real care, even if she tries to pretend otherwise, who's centuries (decades maybe) old. If she did care, she'd have left long ago.
As a critic of the comic myself, I still feel like defending it as you seem to have misinterpreted or misremembered a number of things.

1. Chloe had no input or control over the contract, she didn't even know about it until after it was signed. Its not her contract, she was just the succubus selected to fulfill the contract.
2. Chloe can't just "leave," that's not how these contracts work. She is bound to Teddy until the contract is fulfilled or nullified.
3. Chloe is about Teddy's age, this was stated early in the comic. Not to mention we met her in EC before she had even gone through puberty. She's not decades old (unless you're saying she has spent decades in the Tartarus academy), let alone centuries, even factoring in how time can work differently in Tartarus.
4. For all her many faults Chloe does care about others, there is no way she could have pretended this long a time.
Teddy's the victim. He can't even control what he's doing, because he has the succubus urges he can't control and being a teen isn't likely helping him any.
Teddy has control of himself, at most his succubus side is just making the things he decides to do with men very enjoyable. His succubus body is influencing him, but not controlling him.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Gotoh » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:18 pm

Varanus wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:45 pm
Gotoh wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:46 pm
Setting up some unsuspecting schmuck to be eviscerated in his place (4th panel) is noble? :-\
In Teddy's defense, he had convinced himself that said schmuck would only be set up if they were someone who wouldn't die. If this were not the case (i.e. he was prepared to sacrifice someone else) he wouldn't have given up on the plan once Pandora told him even the manliest guy he had located was not enough.
Sure, but Teddy deliberately withheld that crucial detail from the guys he was shagging. Had Pandora not told him none of them were gonna cut it with Chloe, Teddy would have gotten them killed.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by TwoWayStar » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:57 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:18 pm
Varanus wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:45 pm
Gotoh wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:46 pm
Setting up some unsuspecting schmuck to be eviscerated in his place (4th panel) is noble? :-\
In Teddy's defense, he had convinced himself that said schmuck would only be set up if they were someone who wouldn't die. If this were not the case (i.e. he was prepared to sacrifice someone else) he wouldn't have given up on the plan once Pandora told him even the manliest guy he had located was not enough.
Sure, but Teddy deliberately withheld that crucial detail from the guys he was shagging. Had Pandora not told him none of them were gonna cut it with Chloe, Teddy would have gotten them killed.
...what? Teddi didn't withold any information! He literally just said that a guy would only be set up IF THEY WERE SOMEONE WHO WOULDN'T DIE. As in, from the guys perspective hed have (rough) sex with a hot girl and then shed be jumping around harping about happy nonsense in the afterglow.

Once he learned from Pandora "Hey no normal guy is going to cut it at all" he immediately stopped that plan. Because the whole point. Was to not have ANYONE die.

If you dont mean that and instead mean a guy that's about to have sex with a hot girl "Hey she's a succubus, are you okay with boning the supernatural?" Im sure none of them would have believed him.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Gotoh » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:06 pm

TwoWayStar wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:57 pm
...what? Teddi didn't withold any information!
Yes he did.

Not once did he ever tell any of those jocks that he was auditioning them for another girl, nor did he tell any of them that the "other girl" would likely tear them a new one. Or that they might die just from making out with her. Remember?

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Fluffy » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:41 pm

TwoWayStar wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:57 pm

...what? Teddi didn't withold any information! He literally just said that a guy would only be set up IF THEY WERE SOMEONE WHO WOULDN'T DIE. As in, from the guys perspective hed have (rough) sex with a hot girl and then shed be jumping around harping about happy nonsense in the afterglow.
You missed the fact that Teddy was relying on his own impression on what a 'manly man' was; which, in his opinion, was a guy who could go five times in one sexual encounter.

Like Gotoh said, if - after testing Teddy's choice out for herself - Pandora hadn't told Teddy that the jock he labeled as 'manly enough' wouldn't last five minutes with Chloe, someone would have died because of Teddy's BS theory.
Once he learned from Pandora "Hey no normal guy is going to cut it at all" he immediately stopped that plan. Because the whole point. Was to not have ANYONE die.
But even before Teddy came up with his idiot plan, Pandora told him mortal men that could survive bedding a virgin succubus were things of legend Teddy took her indifferent response to his 'like football players' inquiry as a sign of hope that his theory could work.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 1-03-18 Just Like You

Post by Cortez » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:07 am

christopheftw wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 am
Teddy is a teenager. It’s not his job to raise his little sister.
And yet that's what he has been doing since his father is never around. It is his job, because father and mother aren't around to do it.

It shouldn't be his job, but it is.

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