Re: Dangerously Chloe 6-11-17 Empty Calories
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:20 pm
"That that is, is. That that isn't, isn't. Is that not it? It is." ;)
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I would agree with this. The plot feels like it wants to be something bigger than it is. A lot of times the gags feel like they are forced, as if there's a rule that every page must end in a punchline.DocMesa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:29 pmI think DC is a comic struggling to fit into a box too small for it.
Imagine the following:
A) Each character has about 5 years added to their age to avoid squick
B) The comic was moved to Slipshine
C) It shifted focus to primarily being about sexual misadventures with some supernatural bits, rather than vice versa
While Ma3 struggles a little under its constraints (the whole nipple thing), DC is fighting to get away from its teen rating and become something else altogether.
You know what I think, Fluffy? I think the writers don't have a plan for what they're going to do when Chloe turns out to be cured and for getting Teddy back to male form. Then they would have to address the consequences of everything he's done sooner or later, and we'd all be left asking why it didn't just happen sooner if this solution they're running with really exists, not to mention they'd have to go back to having actually funny jokes and plotlines rather than just drawing Teddy with ginormous boobs etc, throwing in a bunch of off-camera sex and calling it a day. It would certainly explain why they're constantly shying away from actually going there, and keep wussing out every time we come close to actually seeing the end of all this.Fluffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:35 amColor me shocked that, once again, the writers avoid bringing Chloe back into her own comic and giving us yet another sex scene; with Alchemy being added to the list of self serving pricks - and I'm not talking about sleeping with Pandora, either.
Alchemy agreed to shag Chloe early on (while Alchemy was in their female form). You mean to tell us Alchemy only NOWjust realized that having sex with Chloe would serve no purpose because they lacked the life essence she needed to feed on? This means Alchemy was deliberately leading Teddy on in the hopes of scoring with Chloe.
Amazing what self perseverance will get people to confess to, huh Al?
Yeah, it's not like we actually want this comic to suck. I'd much rather praise these works for a job well-done than complain about them being terrible.Fluffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:35 amCan you say you're surprised by this? There's only so long that the writers can avoid the main plot (in this case, saving Chloe) before the story becomes tedious; and this particular side plot - which heavily involves Teddy's sexual misadventures, Pandora's pranks and Abby's rampant stupidity; with Chloe only making the rare appearance - has been going on for over two years now.
This comic will probably end on a 'joke'; where after all this supposed search to find her a lover, Chloe confesses she already took care of the problem months ago - and all of these shenanigans could have been avoided if any of these drooling, self serving idiots who call themselves her friends bothered to take the time and ASK her what she intended to do instead of thinking she was helpless.
I suspect that a significant portion of the Pixie Trix readership may be coming for the prurient content as much as, if not more than, the stories. So that's what may be driving this. Of course, those readers aren't as likely to comment. Page after page of "Oh boy those cartoons are sexy" would get old, fast.We'll do another Kickstarter at that point, which will include DC (Dangerously Chloe) vol 3 (which will more than likely be the last volume of DC.) So yeah, around January 2019 (14-15 months from now,) all Pixie Trix series that are running now will have ended.
I can't speak for everyone at Pixie Trix but I assume everyone is planning for what's next. Ad money is in the shitter, and it's not just us. Everyone is feeling it. I'm still unsure as to where webcomics are going at this point.
There isn't any part of this I don't like. ;)DocMesa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:29 pmI think DC is a comic struggling to fit into a box too small for it.
Imagine the following:
A) Each character has about 5 years added to their age to avoid squick
B) The comic was moved to Slipshine
C) It shifted focus to primarily being about sexual misadventures with some supernatural bits, rather than vice versa
While Ma3 struggles a little under its constraints (the whole nipple thing), DC is fighting to get away from its teen rating and become something else altogether.
Some of us enjoy the ride. Personally, I don't think Chloe could really carry a story on her own which is why they introduced other characters some of whom are more interesting. If it weren't for the all the problems Giselle listed I would love to see a spin-off with Naomi and Prudence, but I know that's just not meant to be. Even though the plot involves finding a way to break the pact between Chloe and Teddy to avoid damnation it's taken some interesting turns instead of endless attempts to set Teddy up with a potential girlfriend only for it to fall through for comedic purposes. Teddy becoming Teddi was a fresh idea and him embracing his feminine side was too. I'm not bored and would love to keep reading if outside circumstances weren't intruding, but if they're going to be wrapping things up I don't want a rushed ending like Eerie Cuties and Magick Chicks.Fluffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:35 amCan you say you're surprised by this? There's only so long that the writers can avoid the main plot (in this case, saving Chloe) before the story becomes tedious; and this particular side plot - which heavily involves Teddy's sexual misadventures, Pandora's pranks and Abby's rampant stupidity; with Chloe only making the rare appearance - has been going on for over two years now.
This comic will probably end on a 'joke'; where after all this supposed search to find her a lover, Chloe confesses she already took care of the problem months ago - and all of these shennanigans could have been avoided if any of these drooling, self serving idiots who call themselves her friends bothered to take the time and ASK her what she intended to do instead of thinking she was helpless.
This. I've said the same thing more than once. Chloe just doesn't have enough presence.
Not to mention that MtF gender bending has been explored rather thoroughly over decades, in various media, for comedy and/or drama, while FtM has mostly been left alone. While I don't hold pixie trix to a particularly high standard, I expect better from them, be it in terms of subverting expectations, telling good jokes or being hot/sexy/fanservicey/whatever.dmra wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:24 am"Teddy becoming Teddi was a fresh idea and him embracing his feminine side was too."
Not exactly that fresh. Ace and Kade in Eerie Cuties both had quite long runs as girls and neither seemed too put out by the experience.
What might have been fresh for the Pixie Trix universes would be turning a woman into a man. But for some reason the creators don't seem to like that idea and whenever anybody (eg Nina in EC) has gone down that path it's only been for a short period.
It’s not exactly a well-hidden secret that the Pixietrix crew make a lot of shit up as they go along. Some characters grow as they’re being written; others just don’t gel in the writers’ minds, and get dropped. Hence, for example, Takeru in Ma3 popped up, was vaguely annoying for a couple of strips, and then got on the bus back to Japan. (The crew don’t do parents.) This is merely slightly glitchy for minor characters like that; it gets a little weirder with someone like Amber in SDB, who was set up to carry half or a third of the story, but Giz evidently couldn’t work out how to do a “single ex-pornstar with dating troubles” story, so she turned into a piece of plot furniture.
X3N0-Life-Form wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:32 amNot to mention that MtF gender bending has been explored rather thoroughly over decades, in various media, for comedy and/or drama, while FtM has mostly been left alone. While I don't hold pixie trix to a particularly high standard, I expect better from them, be it in terms of subverting expectations, telling good jokes or being hot/sexy/fanservicey/whatever.dmra wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:24 am"Teddy becoming Teddi was a fresh idea and him embracing his feminine side was too."
Not exactly that fresh. Ace and Kade in Eerie Cuties both had quite long runs as girls and neither seemed too put out by the experience.
What might have been fresh for the Pixie Trix universes would be turning a woman into a man. But for some reason the creators don't seem to like that idea and whenever anybody (eg Nina in EC) has gone down that path it's only been for a short period.