Dangerously Chloe 18-09-17 Banged Yo Mama

[Fluffy]

(And it doesn't help that Dave and Giz have done an "I banged your mom" gag before, to rather more effect.)

Well, technically it's a "you banged your (step-)mom" gag ;-)

Which is still a piss poor joke; as Teddy never saw/acknowledge Pandora as his step mother - she's only ever been an insufferable nuissance that he's inexplicably stuck with.

So, what's funny about fucking someone you hate?

[DoggieDog52]

So I honestly don't remember but was Teddy supposed to be unable to have sex with a succubus or was it just Chloe because she's unstable? Or was it a naic pact thing that would kill him the second he did? Because if I'm honest, it sounds like sex doesn't mean girlfriend considering how often he's done it. Might as well just nix that route entirely and have Chloe boink Teddy so she can cheer up and come back to the story again. If he can survive sex with Pandora then surely Chloe, provided she can control herself.

[MoonshadowDark]

Haha! That is so funny!

You know what's even funnier, though?

THE EXORCISM CHLOE IS GOING TO DELIVER ON YOUR HEAD FOR SLEEPING WITH HER CONTRACT, PANDY!

So I honestly don't remember but was Teddy supposed to be unable to have sex with a succubus or was it just Chloe because she's unstable? Or was it a naic pact thing that would kill him the second he did? Because if I'm honest, it sounds like sex doesn't mean girlfriend considering how often he's done it. Might as well just nix that route entirely and have Chloe boink Teddy so she can cheer up and come back to the story again. If he can survive sex with Pandora then surely Chloe, provided she can control herself.

It's only with Chloe because the demonic pact will activate and kill him.

Double post merged. The DAMNed

[Alexander Collins]

The only way this can be redeemed is if 1) Pandora had an ulterior motive behind the prank; to prove that Teddy was virile enough to handle sex with a demon; making his chances of surviving his first time with Chloe more probable or 2) because of the psychic/empathic link between Teddy and Chloe; Chloe transformed in the middle of Abby's birthday party. It would be squicky as fuck (as it would be Chloe going in to full on ecstacy in the middle of a group of minors); but it would expose the supernatural problem that was right under Lance's nose.

But, I know I'm expecting far too much from this.

There's always option 3. Chloe wakes up, goes into the bathroom, finds Teddy in the shower and we discover it's all been a dream. Not exactly original but fits in with the quality of the writing recently.

I would actually prefer that than this abortion of a chapter

[Varanus]

so, to all you people incessantly bitching and moaning about how the comic has lost its way, and ruined forever:

do you realize that this has only been one chapter?

I'm pretty sure a lot of people aren't talking about just this chapter but most everything that has happened since Teddy turned back into a girl, his character did a 180 (among other things going from someone who was falling in love with Chloe to someone who would initiate sex acts with random people at the drop of a hat), and Chloe became a background character.

I know how you feel. Most of the people still reading this comic is cringing at every moment and are only enduring it for it to improve. Nobody likes Pandora because she litterally has no redeeming qualities and hurts people just for the fun of it.

Let's not go so far as to say Pandora has no redeeming qualities, she has helped out on a number of occasions after all (though some of those were under duress) and has given good counsel/exposition at times.

Yeah, it's been a standard succubi defense on the forum for a while now. I don't think it's as foolproof an excuse as some people make it out to be, but from an objective standpoint, it does make a certain amount of sense.

Indeed the trouble with the "she's a succubus" defense is that Pandora was characterized early on as a succubus that didn't care about being a good succubus, it was why she could be friends with Chloe when most didn't like Chloe due to her soft nature, and avoids the school like the plague. Its seemingly only with Teddy that she adopts the "make people miserable" goal most succubi have.

It's only with Chloe because the demonic pact will activate and kill him.

The pact may or may not kill him inherently, but sex with a virgin succubus being deadly regardless has been a major plot point. The difference between Pandora and Chloe is that one is not a virgin and the other is. Also surviving sex as a female with a succubus is different from doing it as a male, and it is as a human male that one is at risk when having sex with a virgin succubus as they can't control themselves and end up tearing him apart in a violent lust frenzy.

[Mordhaus]

It's just the classic 'Just banged your mom' gag.

Yep, I'm done with this comic.

[Starphoenix]

A lot of this stems from Pandora being a thoroughly unenjoyable character to read. There's little actual payoff to reading about her in light of more sympathetic characters.

The "But she's an evil Hell spawned demon" defense does not justify the bad writing. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the author penned some sob story for her that was meant to tug at our heartstrings in a weak and forced way of manipulating our emotions. At this point, the character has no real depth beyond being some sort of schadenfreude for the author.

Also, one bad egg can ruin the bunch in reference to chapters, didn't you know?

[Tython]

Hmm a banged your Mom joke......yup seems like Dave and Giz's writing....and here I thought they grew past this low level of humor after the first and only one in Ma3 which ruined Zii's character to an extent. Oh well one can hope.

[Starphoenix]

The fact that this is the second time this joke has been done is distressing enough.

[Fluffy]

So I honestly don't remember but was Teddy supposed to be unable to have sex with a succubus or was it just Chloe because she's unstable? Or was it a naic pact thing that would kill him the second he did? Because if I'm honest, it sounds like sex doesn't mean girlfriend considering how often he's done it. Might as well just nix that route entirely and have Chloe boink Teddy so she can cheer up and come back to the story again. If he can survive sex with Pandora then surely Chloe, provided she can control herself.

It's only with Chloe because the demonic pact will activate and kill him.

More like virgin succubus are incapable of controlling their lust and their first few lovers usually end up slaughtered, as a result (hence why Slash Stab encourages her students to take on human lovers as practice lovers before bedding with someone they actually care about).

[Error of Logic]

Possibly it's both, and the pact demon hooked Teddy up with a virgin succubus so as to kill two birds with one stone; the soul is harvested and the succubus is deflowered.

[lordoffiling]

Three things I'd like to point out:

1) At no point has Pandora ever been portrayed as anything other than Chaotic Evil. This, along with everything else she's done, is totally in character for her. The first time we met her she switched places with Chloe to avoid being arrested, then immediately attempted to turn Teddy into lunch.

2) If you go back to the start of the chapter and read the whole thing over, you realize there's nothing wrong with the writing from a logic sense. This whole time we've been wondering why Pandora has been doing all this, now we know: She saw Lance's arrival as the ultimate prank opportunity, and everything she's done since has been to drive Teddi crazy enough to fall into the trap. Also we advanced the Teddi/Kimmy relationship, introduced some new characters, set up some potential future complications, etc.

3) Remember Elsa? How she and Teddy were going to do it "rodeo style" and what that involved? Pandora learned from the best.

[FuzzyFace]

From a logic sense? Maybe not. But most of the complaints have been from a "is it interesting to read this story?" sense - and that's where it is failing. It's the kind of joke that might be fun as a minor addition to a story, but here it's been a major story arc.

I stopped reading MA3 a long time ago, as I got tired of relentless soft-porn at the expense of story, but I have the impression that those stories (MA3, SOTR, SDB) may be doing better in terms of readership and merchandise than the *C world. If so, then from a business sense, maybe it makes sense to turn this into another dumb-story-with-soft-porn comic?

[Spidrift]

The soft porn has actually been dialled down in Ma3, and was always limited in SDB and SotR, because of advertiser fussiness.

Well, the nipple count has dropped to zero, anyhow. If you actually consider the mildly kinky sexual stuff going on (with carefully poitioned arms, legs, and furniture), the sexual content level may actually have gone up. (It's a good thing that the advertisers are stupid.) But yes, DC may now be at the same level - with much clumsier and more flagrant scenery censorship. The difference would be that the Ma3 universe comics have better writing, and because the art is more realistic, they probably rate as more erotic for most people too.

[Derfman]

I love how people say things like, "I'm done"... "I hate Pandora" ... "Where is this comic going to" ... and yet 5 pages of comments... I think it is doing ok. Just to be fair, I do not like Pandy very much, but that is part of her charm. She is the true antagonist for this comic. Much better then that stuck up bitch they had at first. What was her name again?