Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by glandy » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:48 pm

I know that people are all weirded out but I think it's a huge step forward that Teddi has had a penis in him/her and apparently liked it (assuming that reapers have the same junk people do). The facial expression and particle effects kind of imply that he/she is spaced out still after it so it must have been pretty mind blowing.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by meps98 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:10 pm

When Teddy and Alchemy first met. Teddy was listed as a stray soul in the vicinity and Kimmy was sent to reap him. His death was not scheduled because there were no reapers waiting for him. When his sister caught the scythe in her forehead, again she was not scheduled to die. Neither of them ultimately died because of all the actions of Chloe and Pandora and Kimmy's forbearance.
In Amber's case, as with Teddy before, she was not absolutely dead, just mostly dead. Al was present to finish the job but, due to outside influences including Teddi and the paramedics, Amber recovered. Al didn't refuse to do his job, Amber was just lucky.
It happens.
I think that the rule is, you aren't dead until you're dead. Al was there, ready to do his job but Amber was saved by outside forces. There is no way to know that someone else wouldn't have found her before it was too late. Nothing more than a close call. If the exact date of death is known, why wasn't there a reaper waiting for Teddy and his sister the first time? Because it wasn't their times, despite the close call. The same for Amber because Teddi was ready to take action in the nick of time. Al's mere presence in the strip club was enough to warn her that someone was in danger. There was no banned heavenly drink that did the trick, just CPR and Narcan. Al's job and existence should be safe.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by LarsenSan » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:32 pm

glandy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:48 pm
I know that people are all weirded out but I think it's a huge step forward that Teddi has had a penis in him/her and apparently liked it (assuming that reapers have the same junk people do).
Is it a huge step forward to gay-forming him? :-?

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by Cortez » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:09 pm

Pretty sure Teddie would be bisexual. Though why do you think Teddy being gay would be a bad thing? There's nothing wrong with him liking guys.
meps98 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:10 pm

In Amber's case, as with Teddy before, she was not absolutely dead, just mostly dead.

Her name is Autumn and she was dead, it's not like when Teddy died.

And she was clearly scheduled to die if she was "in the books".

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by edisnooM » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:21 am

'J' wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:50 am
edisnooM wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:21 am
Yeah, personally this strikes me as kind of sketchy, not only because of the apparent continued shift in Teddy's gender / orientation due to the transformation, but also because of how Teddy "made it up" to Alchemy.
Yeah, well, the alternative would've been for Teddy to fix his mistake by correcting the imbalance he caused
Well personally I don't think Teddy needed to do anything, and honestly I don't think Alchemy has much of a leg to stand on here. From the beginning Alchemy has been getting more involved in the lives of mere mortals than probably should be, from saving Teddy's life after prematurely reaping Abby, to keeping hanging around apparently due to physical attraction to Chloe and Teddy, to injecting Teddy with ectoplasm leading to his current state. Heck they should know from their first encounter with Teddy that he fights against dying. Suddenly drawing a line in that sand after all that is a bit odd.

And in this particular instance if Alchemy was so concerned about "balancing the books" and keeping their job they should perhaps have been doing their job instead of say, creeping on Teddy while he was stripping, then coming back stage to flirt / make out. But they didn't and after casually mentioning that someone Teddy knows is dying and he does the decent human thing and tries to save them Alchemy proceeds to brow beat and guilt Teddy to the point he feels he must offer up sexual gratification as recompense.

For that matter when Teddy was in ghost form it was the ghost itself that Alchemy was trying to reap not the body itself, so honestly at any point when Autumn was trying to distract them, they should have been able to do their job.

And to be perfectly honest Alchemy's response here is a bit rich, given how when Chloe and Teddy's "existence" was at stake they agreed to help (very willingly) but when Teddy tried to make the seemingly reasonable explanation that it would probably need to be a male form to solve the problem they took offence and ran off, ostensibly abandoning one or either of them to their fate. But when Alchemy's existence is threatened apparently Teddy has to kowtow and have sex to "make it up".


JoybuzzerX wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:39 am
edisnooM wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:21 am
Yeah, personally this strikes me as kind of sketchy, not only because of the apparent continued shift in Teddy's gender / orientation due to the transformation, but also because of how Teddy "made it up" to Alchemy.
I don't know. I felt Teddy had an attraction to Al the whole time. Now they just went all the way, enjoyed by both, likely not the way either figured it would be if it did happen.
Not strictly true. Teddy had an attraction to Kimmy, something that seems to have persisted after the (forced) transformation (see "phantom boner") but prior to that there was never any indication of an attraction to Al or any other male for that matter. As far as enjoyment goes given how the mere touch of a male caused Teddy to feel uncontrollable pleasure whether he liked it or not, it puts any enjoyment in something of a dubious light. Not to mention the context of having to "make it up" and Alchemy thinking of it "as a good start".


glandy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:48 pm
I know that people are all weirded out but I think it's a huge step forward that Teddi has had a penis in him/her and apparently liked it (assuming that reapers have the same junk people do).The facial expression and particle effects kind of imply that he/she is spaced out still after it so it must have been pretty mind blowing.
Sorry why exactly is this a "huge step forward"? Teddy has been forcibly genderswapped without his consent which is now apparently affecting his gender identity and sexual orientation, I'm not really sure that's an achievement. Also see above re: forced pleasure.

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Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:09 pm
Pretty sure Teddie would be bisexual. Though why do you think Teddy being gay would be a bad thing? There's nothing wrong with him liking guys.
So you don't think there is anything even slightly sketchy about someone having the gender swapped without their consent, and as a result of that having their gender identity / orientation changed?

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by Cortez » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:47 am

Not when it's Teddy's own choice to sleep with Al, no.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by SlightlyMostly » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:15 pm

Cortez wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:09 pm
Her name is Autumn and she was dead, it's not like when Teddy died.
Teddi was able to use ordinary human methods to revive her, though, so Autumn must not have been dead (as humans define it, I don't know how reapers do). Maybe in this comic there is some intermediate state where her spirit has left her body, but is not yet fully separated from it.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by Error of Logic » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:39 pm

Something puzzles me.
Alchemy is a reaper, a creature of death. Why would a reaper be created with the capacity and desire to engage in sex acts?
Yes, I know sex is pleasurable, but by design it is the act of procreation, of making life. Just seems a bit counter-intuitive for a reaper to have the ability. :| :-s :-??
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by Spidrift » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:24 pm

She's an anthropomorphic personification. Whatever makes those happen - in modern urban fantasy, usually the cumulative power of human imagination - insists that they be truly anthropomorphic, with a full set of pseudo-human characteristics. Which definitely includes a strong interest in sex. Just ask the Greek gods.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by glandy » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:47 pm

I wonder if Teddi is at risk of getting pregnant then.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by edisnooM » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:06 am

Cortez wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:47 am
Not when it's Teddy's own choice to sleep with Al, no.
Not really the question I was asking, but you're right it was Teddy's choice. A choice undoubtedly affected by the (forced) gender swap and the established accompanying physical effects, which was absolutely not his choice and for which Alchemy is partly responsible, and likely influenced by Alchemy's angry guilt trip which apparently made Teddy think he owed sex (an opinion Alchemy sort of seems to share). You know when you look at it, it kind of seems like Teddy had about as much "choice" as his thralls did.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by vampire hunter D » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:23 am

glandy wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:47 pm
I wonder if Teddi is at risk of getting pregnant then.
Considering he does not have an actual female reproductive system, I dont see how. (I'd link to the actual strip, but not sure how with the archive not working)

Based on what Pabdora said, this is not a full gender conversion, just rearranging his parts to make him look female
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by rogermart » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:21 am

glandy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:48 pm
I know that people are all weirded out but I think it's a huge step forward that Teddi has had a penis in him/her and apparently liked it (assuming that reapers have the same junk people do). The facial expression and particle effects kind of imply that he/she is spaced out still after it so it must have been pretty mind blowing.
Well, Teddi, like Pandora explained, is a combination of human guy and succubus with a dash of reaper, and while her human brain tells her that a girls touch feels great, her succubus skin tells her that a guys touch feels 10x greater... She has to use all her willpower to find Chloe a match without sleeping with all the guys in her school... But Alchemy is a different case, he/she was good to Teddy/Teddi since they met and they began to share a bond, like Al said "i care about you", so i think Teddi rationalized that it was fine banging him in his guy form and her succubus skin enjoyed the treat...
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by DocMesa » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:32 am

I hope we see Teddi actually paying a price for his intervention with Autumn, like someone he cares about dying. Like, he's weaselling his way around angels, demons and now even the post-coital Reaper. Just once, itd be nice to see the supernatural forces actually holding Teddi to account.

But then if they tried, she'd just bang her way out of it. -.-

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 10-08-17 Supposed to be Dead

Post by TwoWayStar » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:52 pm

Strange how into 'punishing' Teddi some members of the forum are..*shrug*

Anyway, I dunno what kind of stuff y'all would be calling her if Teddi had decided to not intervene..I think Teddi was going off of her instincts.

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