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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Gotoh » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:04 pm

@BioYuGi: Abby Joe had a crush on Rain, but he said he only thought of Abby as his bud. At the end of the series, one of the final snapshots showed him and Skye as a couple.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Cortez » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:24 pm

Gotoh wrote:
The only thing that's clear is you're quick to make assumptions with little to go on,
No, it's clear that i actually pay attention to what the story shows us, including the sub text.

And the fact that you think Naomi is lying, proves that you are the one making assumptions with nothing to go on. Since there's more evidence to her being right about Gabby than the opposite.

Gabrielle's continuous torment isn't nice, but so far her behavior is on par with most siblings
Even the truth serum incident?

As for the sword, she already survived it once. Somehow.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by brasca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:26 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Alice Macher wrote:However it happens (within reason), I'd like to see Gabrielle get her comeuppance, because her antics have definitely crossed the line from cute to cruel.
I'd vote Tandy. If anyone could put Gabrielle in her place, it'd be her because she has the advantage of knowing how to push Gabrielle's buttons. She's done it before.
That and Tandy as her friend would be the best person to get through to her that she's crossing the line.
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Alice Macher wrote:and that's regardless of whether, as Tandy suspects, she actually has a crush on Naomi.
I still think Tandy was being sarcastic about that, kinda like Tiff with A.J. and Rain.
Tandy has told her to make out with her twice that we know of so either she's repeating an old joke or she truly thinks that Gabrielle has a crush on Naomi and should say so because this is going from the antics of someone who wants to get someone's attention regardless of whether the other likes their actions to outright harassment.

Even if Naomi started it with some haze the foreign girl prank Gabrielle has more than made up for it so this is really just bullying which is a pity because she's just so damn cute in this strip. :x

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by vampire hunter D » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:33 pm

Gotoh wrote:
I'd vote Tandy. If anyone could put Gabrielle in her place, it'd be her because she has the advantage of knowing how to push Gabrielle's buttons. She's done it before.
Or Melissa. I'm sure if she put her heads together they could come up with something
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Gotoh » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:51 pm

Cortez wrote:No, it's clear that i actually pay attention to what the story shows us, including the sub text.
Such as...? :-\
Cortez wrote:And the fact that you think Naomi is lying, proves that you are the one making assumptions with nothing to go on. Since there's more evidence to her being right about Gabby than the opposite.
I didn't say she was lying, I questioned whether she's exaggerating. That's two different things.

She claims Gabrielle's taken everything from her, when the only thing she's allegedly taken is her parents' love. And even that's debatable, given we have no context for the scene.

Kinda like how Anakin accused Obi-Wan of turning Padamé against him. That was his side of the story, from his warped perspective. Obi-Wan refuted it by pointing out Anakin only had himself to blame. Which, along with the rest of the prequel trilogy, gave us the whole story so we'd know which of them was telling the truth.

With Naomi's situation, we've got jack besides one scene and only her say on the matter. We don't have the other side of the story yet (her parents' and Gabrielle's).
brasca wrote:That and Tandy as her best friend would be the best person to get through to her that she's crossing the line.
Good point, I could definitely see that happening.
vampire hunter D wrote:Or Melissa.
She'd need a reason to care first. Tandy at least has an interest in trying to keep Gabrielle in line. Sorta.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by BioYuGi » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:28 am

http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips- ... _gabrielle Gabrielle sticks her tongue out at Naomi while her parents call her 'the daughter we never had' which is pretty offensive when you already have a daughter.

http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips- ... g_ze_truth The truth serum incident which Naomi would really have no reason to lie about.

http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips- ... ost_sister Gabby's FIRST instinct when she assumes Naomi has a new boy in her life is to steal him from her.

http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips- ... fellow_man Gabby does enough shit to Naomi that she assumes a simple act of kindness is a way of getting revenge.

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Post by Gotoh » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:53 am

BioYuGi wrote:http://www.dangerouslychloe.com/strips- ... _gabrielle Gabrielle sticks her tongue out at Naomi while her parents call her 'the daughter we never had' which is pretty offensive when you already have a daughter.
Depends on the daughter, hence why we need context. In other words, why did they say that? Is it because Gabrielle's a homewrecker, who deliberately manipulated Naomi's parents into snubbing their own daughter? Or is Naomi in some way to blame?

In one of the previous threads, I compared her situation to Jeanie Bueller's (from 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off') and Monica Geller's (from 'Friends'). Both characters were in the same boat as Naomi. Jeanie's parents favored her brother Ferris over her, Monica's parents did the same with her brother, Ross. But in both cases, it was shown that their parents still cared about them.

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The other scenes you linked to only shows that Gabrielle trolls her, which I've already pointed out several times between this thread and previous ones. What those links don't show is evidence of what Naomi accused her of. What has she taken from her? Naomi said everything, except so far, we don't have evidence of her taking anything.
  • She claims Gabrielle stole her parents love, but has she really?
  • And she and Teddy aren't dating, so she has no grounds there either.
You seeing the problem now? :-\

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by FuzzyFace » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:33 am

Ah - this delicate repartee is making me homesick for Facebook political debates...

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Cortez » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:51 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Depends on the daughter, hence why we need context. In other words, why did they say that? Is it because Gabrielle's a homewrecker, who deliberately manipulated Naomi's parents into snubbing their own daughter? Or is Naomi in some way to blame?
There's nothing that could justify parents neglecting their own child.
With Naomi's situation, we've got jack besides one scene and only her say on the matter.
The facts show otherwise, we've seen Gabrielle bullying her and even planning to do things to antagonize her. So no, it's not just one side.
And she and Teddy aren't dating, so she has no grounds there either.
You'd have a point if it was just that, but it's not. Since Gabrielle went after Teddy specally because she wanted to hurt Naomi and she was making out with Teddy on Naomi's bed, which is a dick move any way you slice it.

Had Gabby taken Teddy to her room, that would be different.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Gotoh » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:49 pm

Cortez wrote:There's nothing that could justify parents neglecting their own child.
Who says they're neglecting her (another assumption)?

From what we've seen, Naomi doesn'thave a job. Which means, her parents are the ones providing for her. And omitting her from one hug doesn't quality as neglect either.
Cortez wrote:The facts show otherwise, we've seen Gabrielle bullying her and even planning to do things to antagonize her. So no, it's not just one side.
Trollig her =/= taking from her.

We've seen plenty of the former, but have no evidence of the latter. Gabrielle has yet to say anything on the matter (whether confirming it, or denying it), so we only have Naomi's say-so.
="Cortez"]You'd have a point if it was just that, but it's not. Since Gabrielle went after Teddy specally because she wanted to hurt Naomi.
Which is evidence of more trolling, not stealing. You can't steal what someone doesn't have.

The most we have was when Gabrielle admitted to making out with Amellia's boyfriend, during Amellia's birthday party. And all that tells us is, she stole a kiss (or a few kisses, depending on how long the makeout session lasted). But she never said whether she caused a breaup between them.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Sk'thloq » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:19 pm

Oh, Gabby, you glorious troll.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by TtheLurker » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:48 pm

Lokitsu wrote:It's a good thing that Gaby is so much better at fighting than Naomi or this fight could end tragically.
I don't see Naomi slicing Gabrielle as tragic. I hate bullies.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Cortez » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:38 pm

Gotoh wrote:[

Who says they're neglecting her (another assumption)?
It's not an assumption, it's a fact. We've seen it in action, but of course, you choose to ignore it, because you want to demonize Naomi.
From what we've seen, Naomi doesn'thave a job. Which means, her parents are the ones providing for her. And omitting her from one hug doesn't quality as neglect either.
You don't understand how parental neglect works, do you? Doing the bare minimum of what a parent should do, doesn't erase the neglect.

And omitting Naomi from from a hug means they are withholding affection, which is neglect. That they bother to remember to feed her doesn't change that.

There's way more to proper parenting than just providing. Just actually have to show affection and yes, that includes hugging them and telling them you care, so they know they are loved. It means talking to them, spending time with them, etc.

Just feeding them means you don't want child services on your case.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that there's only one type of abuse and one type of neglect.
Trollig her =/= taking from her.
Do you really not get it? Then again, you're saying Gabby bullying of Naomi is just "trolling". As if that makes it all ok.


Which is evidence of more trolling, not stealing. You can't steal what someone doesn't have.
No, it's evidence of Gabrielle being a heartless jerk and a bully. Which again, you seem to ignore.

It's a little worrying that you think what she's doing is acceptable.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by Gotoh » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:29 am

Cortez wrote:It's not an assumption, it's a fact. We've seen it in action, but of course, you choose to ignore it, because you want to demonize Naomi.
I'm not demonizing anyone. Naomi happens to be one of the few characters I actually like in DC.

All I did was pose a question: is she somehow to blame? I didn't say definitely. Hence, why I used the Anakin analogy earlier. Without context, we'd only have his say-so as far as Padmé allegedly turning against him. The same way we only have Naomi's say-so about her parents.
Cortez wrote:Doing the bare minimum of what a parent should do, doesn't erase the neglect.

And omitting Naomi from from a hug means they are withholding affection, which is neglect.
You inferred all of this from one hug, yet you wonder why I say you're jumping to conclusions? :-\
Cortez wrote:you're saying Gabby bullying of Naomi is just "trolling". As if that makes it all ok.
I haven't said anything about it, other than I think it's funny and that you and others are making a bigger deal of it than it actually is. It's meant to be comical, not a drama. I get a laugh out of Gabrielle the same as I do out of Tia.

But I've also said she's a jerk several times (I'm not sure how you keep glossing over that).

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 23-02-17 Making My Life Miserable

Post by brasca » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:11 am

In all fairness we really haven't seen Gabrielle's good side. I'm sure she has one or Tandy wouldn't be friends with her, but so far nothing she's done has been altruistic.

Now let's consider Gabrielle's words "Because it's easy." Perhaps all Gabrielle had to do to ingratiate herself among Naomi's parents is pretend to be interested in what they like or help out a little extra around the house. Naomi seems like an only child who gets a lot of what she wants so now she's got competition from a seemingly good girl who knows how to manipulate her parents. That's easy enough. And while she has considered the idea of seducing the boys Naomi likes that doesn't mean she's succeeded. Naomi doesn't like Teddi and she was rescued not seduced by Gabrielle. She has no claim on Teddi or any other boy she fancies so once again it's Gabrielle being competitive for the sake of irritating her and it's easy. She also knows what buttons to push like right now Gabrielle fled her bedroom knowing that Naomi would chase after her and lured her into a fight that she's easily winning. Yes it's irritating that her foster sister was about to have sex with another girl on her bed, but at worst she has to clean the sheets or not since there could be valuable alien DNA to sample. She might be pleased for once that her foster sister did her a favor, but Naomi has a temper and that's easy to manipulate.

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