Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Don Alexander » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:23 pm

Wow, I had completely forgotten Tandy showed up in this comic.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Cortez » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:53 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Cortez wrote:Not really that trope, since VitriolicBestBuds doesn't have one acting as the other's lackey.
1. Tandy isn't a lackey. If she obliges Gabriel, it's because she chooses to, not because she's being forced to.
2. Which doesn't discredit the trope being used, if you look at their interactions with each other.
She is and it does, because VitriolicBestBuds doesn't have one as the other's lackey.

Every time we've seen them together, Tandy is doing Gabby's bidding. For reasons that have not been explained.

She does snark at Gabriel, but that just means that she falls under the Servile Snarker trope or Sarcastic Devotee.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Gotoh » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:50 pm

@Cortez: Did you even look at the examples brasca linked to? :-\

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Cortez » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:26 pm

Yes, which lands in the Servile Snarker and Sarcastic Devotee spectrum.

Tandy ultimately still does whatever Gabriel tells her, which isn't how VitriolicBestBuds works. Especially since we only Tandy snarking at Gabriel and not the other way around, while VitriolicBestBuds goes both ways.

Tandy also showed Servile Snarker/Sarcastic Devotee tendencies when working under Melissa, so it's not even exclusive to Gabriel.

You'd have more a point if Tandy ever actually said no to Gabriel. Like i said before, she doesn't seem to approve of Gabriel bullying Naomi, but helps Naomi anyway.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Gotoh » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:58 pm

Cortez wrote:Yes, which lands in the Servile Snarker and Sarcastic Devotee spectrum..
She doesn't work for Gabrielle, she does favors for her. That's two different things.

What you're describing would be someone like Lukas. And even then, it doesn't descredit the trope being used, since vitriolic best buds isn't dependent on the friends being equals.

If Tandy hasn't refused to comply with any of Gabrielle's requests, it's by choice. Not obligation. Gabby can't order her to do anything, but she can (and has) asked.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Cortez » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:13 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Cortez wrote:Yes, which lands in the Servile Snarker and Sarcastic Devotee spectrum..
She doesn't work for Gabrielle, she does favors for her. That's two different things.
No, she does her bidding. She's a lackey.
since vitriolic best buds isn't dependent on the friends being equals.
It is actually, that's the point. Both parties are supposed to be equally Vitrolic. I don't think you understand the trope.

I mean read the article and the examples. Spider-Man/Wolverine, Raphael and Casey Jones. Nothing there seems close to the relationship between Gabrielle and Tandy.

Except again, Seville Snarker and Sarcastic Devotee.

At the least, it's a one sided Vitrolic friendship, since Gabrielle usually isn't Vitrolic back, even though she the meanest of the two.

If Tandy hasn't refused to comply with any of Gabrielle's requests, it's by choice. Not obligation.
And yet, we have no evidence of that. We've had Tandy disagreeing with something Tandy is planning, but helping her anyway.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by TheEighth » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:45 pm

Oh good.

I'm glad to see characters from Artemis Academy again.

I can't help but wonder if Gabrielle's accent is fake
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by brasca » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:06 am

Cortez wrote:
Gotoh wrote:
Cortez wrote:Yes, which lands in the Servile Snarker and Sarcastic Devotee spectrum..
She doesn't work for Gabrielle, she does favors for her. That's two different things.
No, she does her bidding. She's a lackey.
since vitriolic best buds isn't dependent on the friends being equals.
It is actually, that's the point. Both parties are supposed to be equally Vitrolic. I don't think you understand the trope.

I mean read the article and the examples. Spider-Man/Wolverine, Raphael and Casey Jones. Nothing there seems close to the relationship between Gabrielle and Tandy.

Except again, Seville Snarker and Sarcastic Devotee.

At the least, it's a one sided Vitrolic friendship, since Gabrielle usually isn't Vitrolic back, even though she the meanest of the two.

If Tandy hasn't refused to comply with any of Gabrielle's requests, it's by choice. Not obligation.
And yet, we have no evidence of that. We've had Tandy disagreeing with something Tandy is planning, but helping her anyway.
On this rare occasion I'm actually concurring with Gotoh. Referring back to my examples, lackeys do not intentionally humiliate their bosses. However, we don't know enough about Gabrielle and Tandy or Amelia for that matter to make any accurate assessments of their friendship. Personally I think Gabrielle and Tandy aren't all that different than Cerise and Melissa in their own clique except these 2 seem to be evenly matched and the marginally weaker of the two (whoever that may be) isn't so insecure that she'd resort to the measures Cerise ultimately does to get ahead.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Gotoh » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:15 am

TheEighth wrote:I'm glad to see characters from Artemis Academy again.
Agreed.
TheEighth wrote:I can't help but wonder if Gabrielle's accent is fake
She still had it while under the effects of Tandy's truth massage.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Cortez » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:26 am

brasca wrote:[
On this rare occasion I'm actually concurring with Gotoh. Referring back to my examples, lackeys do not intentionally humiliate their bosses.
They do actually, it's a very common occurrence to have a lackey constantly mock their boss's plans.

It's pretty much all Lawrence does, constantly mock his boss Dr.Nefarious and his plans.For Example.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by brasca » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:27 am

Cortez wrote:
brasca wrote:[
On this rare occasion I'm actually concurring with Gotoh. Referring back to my examples, lackeys do not intentionally humiliate their bosses.
They do actually, it's a very common occurrence to have a lackey constantly mock their boss's plans.

It's pretty much all Lawrence does, constantly mock his boss Dr.Nefarious and his plans.For Example.
The exception to this rule are bosses who are too arrogant to notice or can't get anyone better to assist them. Sheego could be a supervillain in her own right, but chooses to work for Dr. Drakken because she's too bored to scheme. Gabrielle and Tandy are on the same footing. They're both students at Artemis Academy and seem to be evenly matched. Now Gabrielle may think she is the leader of their group and Tandy doesn't care enough to set her straight or prefers to be a girl of action instead of a plotter, but as seen in the strips I referred to she does have her limits when she starts treating her as a servant. It's still interesting that she should be willing to assist Gabrielle in spying on her foster sister, but perhaps she sees this as an exercise and willing to practice or maybe she's discovered a lot of paranormal things that surround Teddi and interested in that.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Sk'thloq » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:25 am

Don Alexander wrote:Wow, I had completely forgotten Tandy showed up in this comic.
I had completely forgotten who Tandy was. I had to go back and reread MC. God, I miss it and EC.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by tau neutrino » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:57 pm

Wouldn't you expect compromising photos to be candid pictures?

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by Gotoh » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:48 am

Sk'thloq wrote:I had to go back and reread MC. God, I miss it and EC.
That makes two of us.

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Re: Dangerously Chloe 5-01-17 Chapter 18 Not What She Seems

Post by TtheLurker » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:26 pm

Gotoh wrote:
Sk'thloq wrote:I had to go back and reread MC. God, I miss it and EC.
That makes two of us.
For those of us that only read DC, can someone please enlighten the uninitiated?

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