Dangerously Chloe 12-12-16 My Fanfic is Coming True
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 12-12-16 My Fanfic is Coming True
Other than the fact he specifically wished for a girlfriend, and every single time his preferences are mentioned, girls are mentioned, no, no we don't. Though I would mention girls are mentioned a *lot*, and never once has Teddy referred to any man as attractive in any way, unlike with women.
But we all know they don't matter, we can just call over Melissa to brainwash him permanently, it'll fix everything. Or go the humane way and mention how his orientation became the mirror image of what it was before like in the magic ball incident.
And yeah, since he agreed to them because his friend is dying, it makes everything okay!
But we all know they don't matter, we can just call over Melissa to brainwash him permanently, it'll fix everything. Or go the humane way and mention how his orientation became the mirror image of what it was before like in the magic ball incident.
And yeah, since he agreed to them because his friend is dying, it makes everything okay!
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He's never said they were unappealing either. He never said he wasn't into guys. So again, you're assuming a lot.Other than the fact he specifically wished for a girlfriend, and every single time his preferences are mentioned, girls are mentioned, no, no we don't. Though I would mention girls are mentioned a *lot*, and never once has Teddy referred to any man as attractive in any way, unlike with women.
Considering Teddi came to that decision on her own, yes it is. She's not being forced by anyone, not even by the friend that is dying.And yeah, since he agreed to them because his friend is dying, it makes everything okay!
By the way, didn't you say you were done with this strip?
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If this is going the way it seems to be indicating (rare for this comic, I know), then uh...
Jesus Christ, Teddy. Talk about taking one (or seven) for the team.
Jesus Christ, Teddy. Talk about taking one (or seven) for the team.
This is getting out of hand.
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"My readers" = Pandora, considering the fanfic is written on paper and stapled poorly. No telling how sticky the pages are.
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I think it would be a case by case basis.Dorgengoa wrote:If this is going the way it seems to be indicating (rare for this comic, I know), then uh...
Jesus Christ, Teddy. Talk about taking one (or seven) for the team.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 12-12-16 My Fanfic is Coming True
teddy is a man of action (present circumstances notwithstanding). whether doing battle with the forces of heaven, or playing live bait for a hungry demon, he is decisive.Varanus wrote:Still, to be so willing to have sex with people he doesn't even like. It all seems to have come out of nowhere, especially when he has expressed wanting to be with Chloe/Alchemy.Cortez wrote:Teddi first has to make sure they can survive a night with Chloe. Teddi doesn't want any of them to die.
Hmmm, maybe the succubus blood is having more an effect on him than he realizes?
so if needs to pretend he's ok with looking like a girl and get intimate with someone he's not attracted to, that's what he'll do; discomfort be damned.
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Considering he's doing it for a 'friend' who purposefully sabotaged his chances to *never get into this mess in the first place* (and he knows nothing about her doing it), while their supposed friend who can shift into male form on a whim, can't die because of it, and has a wacky gender status considering they are a personification of the force of death rather than anyone born into the gender binary, I don't really think it's okay, no. it really isn't. It's like the person who asked you for money for therapy blew everything you gave them on casinos, then requested one big 'final' deposit from your family while the person they were close with (not even mentioning said person wants to bang them) won the lottery supplying them with enough money to easily pay for the actual treatment.Cortez wrote:He's never said they were unappealing either. He never said he wasn't into guys. So again, you're assuming a lot.Other than the fact he specifically wished for a girlfriend, and every single time his preferences are mentioned, girls are mentioned, no, no we don't. Though I would mention girls are mentioned a *lot*, and never once has Teddy referred to any man as attractive in any way, unlike with women.
Considering Teddi came to that decision on her own, yes it is. She's not being forced by anyone, not even by the friend that is dying.And yeah, since he agreed to them because his friend is dying, it makes everything okay!
By the way, didn't you say you were done with this strip?
Teddy's essentially being duped into 'taking one for the team' for a person who directly sabotaged her chances to return to hell (and his chance to have a girlfriend) without knowing about it, while the person who could easily fix the whole issue *and* got Teddy stuck in a female form against his will in the first place is acting like a child and getting away with it because people sympathize with death incarnate over gender idenitity issues. All the while his egocentric, selfish, borderline psychopatic little sister and entirely psychopatic succubus roommate whom he could and should kick out of the house weeks ago make fun of him for it.
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Except you forget that Alchemy was only comfortable with the idea of sleeping with Chloe as woman and was not comfortable doing it as a man. How is that different from you thinking Teddy is being "forced" to take one for the team?
And you're wrong anyway, since no one is forcing Teddi to do anything. It's a decision Teddi came to on her own.
Teddi is the one that came up with this plan.
And you're wrong anyway, since no one is forcing Teddi to do anything. It's a decision Teddi came to on her own.
Teddi is the one that came up with this plan.
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*glances at fourth panel, does double-take* Waitaminute... Orders? Invoices? Are they saying this is a full-scale production gig?
Okay, flag on this play, I've lived with an actual author. There is no way Teddy could not notice an operation of that scale, or be dumb enough to not ask what it's all for. He'd be literally tripping over boxes stacked in the hallways because there's nowhere else to put them.
Okay, flag on this play, I've lived with an actual author. There is no way Teddy could not notice an operation of that scale, or be dumb enough to not ask what it's all for. He'd be literally tripping over boxes stacked in the hallways because there's nowhere else to put them.
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The difference is when Teddy does it, you wonder if he'd like it, but if Alchemy can do it to save his life and help out a friend whom she forced into a female form and then proceeded to make out with in a borderline forceful way, you apply your views on people with gender identity problems and sympathise with the incarnation of death who by all stretches of imagination should have a vastly different perception of gender than humans do.Cortez wrote:Except you forget that Alchemy was only comfortable with the idea of sleeping with Chloe as woman and was not comfortable doing it as a man. How is that different from you thinking Teddy is being "forced" to take one for the team?
And you're wrong anyway, since no one is forcing Teddi to do anything. It's a decision Teddi came to on her own.
Teddi is the one that came up with this plan.
And no one is forcing Teddy to do anything, because he does it out of a mix of pragmatism and compassion for a friend. However, this friend ruined his opportunity to date Triana or (indirectly) Lacy, and he knows nothing about it. Chloe and Alchemy are literally responsible for this entire situation, with Teddy not knowing the depth of their fault before he decides to help out with what may or may not include attempting to have sex with people he was never shown having attraction to (and some of whom have bullied him for years). If Chloe didn't sabotage Teddy and Triana's date, she might've been on another assignemtn already and not dying of virginity; if Alchemy had basic concepts of patience (listening to what Teddy has to say), consent (not transforming Teddy into a female permanently or semi-permanently), compassion (realizing Chloe is in danger of dying), or gratefulness (realizing she's responsible for Teddy's current situation and it isn't just so she can have extra eyecandy while satisfying her emotional interest in Teddy), they wouldn't be in this situation either. Of course, Teddy doesn't know Chloe is responsible for the missed opportunity for them to be free of their contract, and as such is willing to make sure everyone is safe no matter what it takes because he actually cares for her well-being and is one of the least selfish and more compassionate characters in the strip.
But of course Teddy being unaware of the entirety of the situation doesn't matter, since forcing guys to be sexually attracted to one another by overwriting their personality is okay by this universe's standards.
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Re: Dangerously Chloe 12-12-16 My Fanfic is Coming True
We don't actually know that though do we? All Alchemy claimed was that it was "not a switch" and we never got any more details regarding if she didn't want to do it with Chloe in a male body as she got upset and ran away without further explanation. Indeed the fact that simply being around Chloe made her turn male in the past suggests the opposite of what you are saying.Cortez wrote:Except you forget that Alchemy was only comfortable with the idea of sleeping with Chloe as woman and was not comfortable doing it as a man.
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But again, even taking into account how selfless Teddy is, its still hard to believe he is this willing to go so far so fast with so many. I'm suspecting its either the succubus blood effecting his inhibitions, or he is simply putting on a brave face while actually thinking very different things (much like when he earlier claimed he had happily accepted living as a girl).
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I originally envisioned Pandora being a member of Ruby's yaoi club, but now I see her as one her biggest suppliers.Raamyah wrote:"My readers" = Pandora, considering the fanfic is written on paper and stapled poorly. No telling how sticky the pages are.
You make some very convincing arguments, but we have yet to see how all this will play out. Keep in mind that the old rules have changed because Teddi doesn't just have the body of a hot teen girl, but one with succubus pheromones. Teddi doesn't have to have sex with any of these dates. She can toy with them, lead them on, and break their hearts if they don't live up to her standards. While I doubt Teddi would purposely be vindictive she can inadvertently hurt them ten times more than all of the locker shoving ever could. The bullies are now falling all over themselves to date her and the girls who never talked to them are green with envy. It's a better situation than what Teddy had a week ago. And as Cortez noted there was never any clear declaration that Teddy was straight. I think he preferred girls since Jacqui was his first crush and he really couldn't see himself with any gender. Teddy didn't seem to have any friends and seeing as how boys and girls mistreated him it's a miracle he wasn't a misanthrope. Jacqui was not only his first crush, but a friend and after she left he didn't seem to find anyone that was decent to him until Chloe so it makes sense that he wants to do everything he can to save her and in the process learn some things about sexual preferences.Maechris wrote:The difference is when Teddy does it, you wonder if he'd like it, but if Alchemy can do it to save his life and help out a friend whom she forced into a female form and then proceeded to make out with in a borderline forceful way, you apply your views on people with gender identity problems and sympathise with the incarnation of death who by all stretches of imagination should have a vastly different perception of gender than humans do.Cortez wrote:Except you forget that Alchemy was only comfortable with the idea of sleeping with Chloe as woman and was not comfortable doing it as a man. How is that different from you thinking Teddy is being "forced" to take one for the team?
And you're wrong anyway, since no one is forcing Teddi to do anything. It's a decision Teddi came to on her own.
Teddi is the one that came up with this plan.
And no one is forcing Teddy to do anything, because he does it out of a mix of pragmatism and compassion for a friend. However, this friend ruined his opportunity to date Triana or (indirectly) Lacy, and he knows nothing about it. Chloe and Alchemy are literally responsible for this entire situation, with Teddy not knowing the depth of their fault before he decides to help out with what may or may not include attempting to have sex with people he was never shown having attraction to (and some of whom have bullied him for years). If Chloe didn't sabotage Teddy and Triana's date, she might've been on another assignemtn already and not dying of virginity; if Alchemy had basic concepts of patience (listening to what Teddy has to say), consent (not transforming Teddy into a female permanently or semi-permanently), compassion (realizing Chloe is in danger of dying), or gratefulness (realizing she's responsible for Teddy's current situation and it isn't just so she can have extra eyecandy while satisfying her emotional interest in Teddy), they wouldn't be in this situation either. Of course, Teddy doesn't know Chloe is responsible for the missed opportunity for them to be free of their contract, and as such is willing to make sure everyone is safe no matter what it takes because he actually cares for her well-being and is one of the least selfish and more compassionate characters in the strip.
But of course Teddy being unaware of the entirety of the situation doesn't matter, since forcing guys to be sexually attracted to one another by overwriting their personality is okay by this universe's standards.
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O think a lot of people are forgetting exactly that point. Teddi makes a decision after having logically thought it through. Do we as readers truly think Teddy would be okay with watching a girl he is close to die because she likes him so much she is unwilling to curse him to h-ll? Chloe has done her self-sacrificing bit and is currently living it every day. Teddy, now much more aware of how real this is, has decided to take his sucky circumstances, and try to SAVE HER LIFE while also NOT CONDEMNING ANYONE ELSE'S. It's really that simple. I 100% would do the same thing in Teddi's shoes.'J' wrote:teddy is a man of action (present circumstances notwithstanding). whether doing battle with the forces of heaven, or playing live bait for a hungry demon, he is decisive.Varanus wrote:Still, to be so willing to have sex with people he doesn't even like. It all seems to have come out of nowhere, especially when he has expressed wanting to be with Chloe/Alchemy.Cortez wrote:Teddi first has to make sure they can survive a night with Chloe. Teddi doesn't want any of them to die.
Hmmm, maybe the succubus blood is having more an effect on him than he realizes?
so if needs to pretend he's ok with looking like a girl and get intimate with someone he's not attracted to, that's what he'll do; discomfort be damned.
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