Dangerously Chloe 28-11-16 Clearly Overcompensation

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crimzontearz wrote:Am I the only one who is tired of the gender bender story line already?
Gender bender in and of itself is not the problem, changing the focus is.

What I liked about DC was the basic premise: a Good Guy(TM), trying his best to do what he feels is the Right Thing(TM) while getting in over his head dealing with a slew of girls/women that keep finding new and inventive ways of complicating his life. In that context, the gender bending was great -- not only Teddy had to handle a bratty sister, a succubus girlfriend, a demoness live-in, a visiting reaper with a crush, and schoolgirls that consider him an alien or use him for sexual experimentation; but he also had to cope with having a female body that he had no clue how to deal with. And the "fun" episodes (getting a handjob, female masturbation) felt right because the guy was likeable and deserved the universe throwing him an unexpected bone every now and then. Teddy's life was chaotic, crazy, and full of surprises, many of them supernatural; and most of all if was funny, but in a "good" way that made the reader feel for him. Even as a female, Teddy was still the same guy that we knew and liked, and the unintended erotic shenanigans that ensued meshed well with the overall theme.

Unfortunately, having Teddy accept being a (trans)woman and shifting the focus to it, takes the comic in a completely different direction.
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Except that's not true, since it's still part of Teddi's life being chaotic and supernatural.
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Alice Macher wrote:Countdown to Teddi wanting desperately to become a boy again, even at the risk of his death and damnation: 10...9...8...
How is this any different than the normal hassles Teddi went through when he was a boy? At least he burned Lacy good with that last comment.

And I must say being told your penis is your most interesting feature would've been more enjoyable as a boy, but at least he knows he's got the goods if he switches back.
Right, Triana treats Teddi more or less the same and Triana already disliked Teddi.

So it's not that different from when Teddi was a boy.

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Cortez wrote:Except that's not true, since it's still part of Teddi's life being chaotic and supernatural.
His reaction to it is very different. He doesn't "feel" like the same person.

Compare and contrast Teddy desperately trying to cover himself vs. Teddi undressing to make a point.

The name change is not accidental, this is no longer the same person.

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In a way, that is true. Biochemistry and experiences do affect our behaviour, and even in this short time period, Teddi's have been very different from Teddy's. Not to mention she is currently locked in this form, as opposed to the brief shift from before.

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Error of Logic wrote:Speaking as a male of the species... it really isn't.
Then you're speaking for yourself because as a male of the species I'll take whatever compliment I can get.

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Alexander Collins wrote:
crimzontearz wrote:Am I the only one who is tired of the gender bender story line already?
Your not alone friend.
I was from the moment it started, really. But I tend to permadrop stories by the ends of arcs, not at their beginnings, just in case there's a miraculous save and something surprises me. And there's no point going on another temporary break yet again.

Error of Logic wrote:In a way, that is true. Biochemistry and experiences do affect our behaviour, and even in this short time period, Teddi's have been very different from Teddy's. Not to mention she is currently locked in this form, as opposed to the brief shift from before.
There's been some theories on how a male or female human would behave if their body's biochemistry was shifted to that of the other sex in a matter of seconds/minutes, but none of them mentioned sudden bouts of exhibitionism when shifting male to female.
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crimzontearz wrote:Am I the only one who is tired of the gender bender story line already?
I'm pretty tired of it, and I've been reading El Goonish Shive for a decade. I'm just not happy with the execution in Dangerously Chloe.

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The execution has been great, in fact it's rather unique to most gender-flippedstories since this one actually treats it like a transition. Unlike the Webcomic you mentioned.
TtheLurker wrote:[
His reaction to it is very different. He doesn't "feel" like the same person.
Except she is and she does
Compare and contrast Teddy desperately trying to cover himself vs. Teddi undressing to make a point.
Context is your friend slick, you do realize Teddi was in the the girls lockeroom when she "undressed to make a point". The difference in the situations should be obvious.

After all, people do undress and change clothes in lockerooms. Plus you missed the part where Teddi said "Let's not make any more awkward than it needs to be".

Point being, you're talking about two different situations. Plus Teddi and Triana now both have the same equipment.
The name change is not accidental, this is no longer the same person.
Except it is the same person, making the best of what they got.
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TtheLurker wrote:Unfortunately, having Teddy accept being a (trans)woman and shifting the focus to it, takes the comic in a completely different direction.
Seems to me that there is a world of difference between Teddy accepting this (your interpretation) and his own explanation. When changing back means almost certain death (plus torment for somebody he cares about), a rational person may not consider that something to push for in the near term.

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crimzontearz wrote:Am I the only one who is tired of the gender bender story line already?
Nope, but I think that some of it is the fish lips on all the women. I just can't stand to look at them any more and it's kind of distracting me from the story. ~X(

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...My God, I have so many questions right now. Chief among them is: when is the comic going to pull the rug out from under Teddy's feet for the purposes of comedy?

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Judging by the rezvtion those jocks had....not too long
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Cortez wrote:The execution has been great, in fact it's rather unique to most gender-flippedstories since this one actually treats it like a transition. Unlike the Webcomic you mentioned.
TtheLurker wrote:[
His reaction to it is very different. He doesn't "feel" like the same person.
Except she is and she does
Compare and contrast Teddy desperately trying to cover himself vs. Teddi undressing to make a point.
Context is your friend slick, you do realize Teddi was in the the girls lockeroom when she "undressed to make a point". The difference in the situations should be obvious.

After all, people do undress and change clothes in lockerooms. Plus you missed the part where Teddi said "Let's not make any more awkward than it needs to be".

Point being, you're talking about two different situations. Plus Teddi and Triana now both have the same equipment.
The name change is not accidental, this is no longer the same person.




Except it is the same person, making the best of what they got.
going by Prince EA

Same person, Different body ;)

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LegendaryKroc wrote:...My God, I have so many questions right now. Chief among them is: when is the comic going to pull the rug out from under Teddy's feet for the purposes of comedy?
In the next two strips. If you were born male and with common sense, your not going to be very fortunate in this world. :( :-s

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LegendaryKroc wrote:...My God, I have so many questions right now. Chief among them is: when is the comic going to pull the rug out from under Teddy's feet for the purposes of comedy?
You keep saying that as if she has been having a perfect day or something. So what metaphorical rug are you talking about?
vampire hunter D wrote:Judging by the rezvtion those jocks had....not too long

Rez-what? And it doesn't seem like the jocks or any of the boys will be a problem. Unless you mean them asking Teddi out would be a problem.

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