Dangerously Chloe 11-01-16 Are you a lesbian

[someone]

That gives infinite veto power to anyone who declares themself offended. That's simply not reasonable.

Let's test this theory.


Dave, I am offended that this comic did not sing the praise of the HypnoToad. In my religion all comics uploaded on a triple-number day (such as January 11 or February 22 or March 33, wait, not that last one) must contain a paragraph about the glory of the hypnotoad.

Please remedy this grave offense immediately.

The theory has been tested, and proven wrong. There is no infinite veto power being given to anyone claiming they are offended.

That implies that being a straight white male automatically makes one "privileged" when it doesn't. There are plenty of straight white men in identical economic and social positions as the "underprivileged" of other races. To claim otherwise is a gross generalization. It's almost as illogical as claiming that only whites can be racist.

They're privileged in that they are not discriminated against because of their race, sex, or sexuality.

This means that "privilege" is a very bad word, because "not being discriminated against" shouldn't be a privilege. It makes about as much sense as being given the privilege of not getting beaten up by bullies every day; the absence of a bad thing isn't the presence of a good thing.

Anyway, yes, there are people in the so-called privileged demographic who are poor and miserable. Progressive politics have completely abandoned the concept of class warfare, however, so defending the paupers (regardless of race, sex, religion, etc.) is not on anyone's agenda. Reducing the inequalities between men and women, between straight and gay, between cis and trans, those issues are current (and they are perfectly legitimate), but reducing the inequalities between poor and wealthy is no longer a plank in anybody's program. It helps that this issue has been delegitimized by conservative media railing constantly against welfare by calling taxes unjust and a burden on "job creators" while at the same time complaining about "entitlement", thereby making wealth redistribution look bad.

[FuzzyFace]

They're privileged in that they are not discriminated against because of their race, sex, or sexuality.

Did you stop following the news a while ago? White men are social media's favorite whipping boys, nowadays. Preference after preference is given to everyone but white males.

Progressive politics have completely abandoned the concept of class warfare

and switched to race and gender warfare. The point is to divide people into groups while gaining the support of those not being denounced. Social Marxism instead of economic Marxism.

It helps that [reducing the inequalities between poor and wealthy] has been delegitimized by conservative media railing constantly against welfare by calling taxes unjust and a burden on "job creators" while at the same time complaining about "entitlement", thereby making wealth redistribution look bad.

Well, wealth redistribution has the fatal flaw that it doesn't work to create prosperity. Dictatorship after dictatorship, social democracy after social democracy has tried it. The only ones that stave off disaster are those in highly cohesive, homogeneous, high-trust societies, such as Scandinavia used to be.

[JTheCreator]

So did anyone read "hard 1st base" as innuendo for using her lips on the receiver's "southern set of lips"?

[Spidrift]

The theory has been tested, and proven wrong. There is no infinite veto power being given to anyone claiming they are offended.

The thing being tested was never proposed as a theory, and Dave never undertook to participate in the experiment. So this was the experimental science equivalent of a chocolate fireguard. (Never mind issues of sample size or control tests.)

[vampire hunter D]

Ok, I'm calling it

[Bad Taiming]

Teddy once again is a clueless as ever.
He seems more relaxed than he ever has been in the comic though. But with all the girls around him pushing his buttons all the time he must have been getting really backed up.
One thing he really needs to learn is how to be a good host. Lacy clearly had a need to experiment with a boy. Teddy should be asking her if there is any thing else she wants to try while she is there.
I am not talking about P in V necessarily. But Kissing petting or him returning the favor with a handy for her.

I also hope The presents of Teddies baby batter is driving Pandora nuts, He needs to pay her back in spades.

[Varanus]

They're privileged in that they are not discriminated against because of their race, sex, or sexuality.

How are you defining this absolute statement? Any person in a position of power over a straight white man is perfectly capable of discriminating against them because of their race, sex or sexuality if they happen to hold a strong bias against that man's sex, sexuality or race. There is no magical instinctive law in the human race that protects straight white men from being discriminated against, just cultural biases that may make it less likely in various situations and societies. Discrimination can exist for anyone. Heck, people can discriminate against their own race or sex.

[someone]

We're talking about systemic discrimination here.

[tau neutrino]

So when members of a non-privileged group tell you that something you've written is offensive, the right thing to do is apologize without qualification and make amends.

That gives infinite veto power to anyone who declares themself offended. That's simply not reasonable.

The case of Michael Bailey, who was demonized as an anti-trans monster despite a long history of support for transgender people because his research contradicted the narrative on transsexuality, is instructive.

[Varanus]

We're talking about systemic discrimination here.

Then its important to say that instead of stating white straight men don't face discrimination.

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I look forward to the next update where we hopefully get back to more sexy succubi antics.

[Don Alexander]

The case of Michael Bailey, who was demonized as an anti-trans monster despite a long history of support for transgender people because his research contradicted the narrative on transsexuality, is instructive.

Very interesting article, I might need to get that book one day.

Also, haha, the comments section immediately devolves into a flame war...

[TeddyLove]

Oh, and If they were straight parents against lesbians im positive you would all be ok with that frequently used concept.

Way to jump the gun there, chief. Pretty sure 'straight parents being anti gay' would have generated just as much of a heated discussion.

Nope.
Straight parents being anti gay would make people hate those parents solely for the simple reason that no straight person would be offended by it, neither any LGTB would feel the need to defend straights.

[Captain Vlad]

Someone may've said this already, but I skipped a few pages after reading one too many posts from people who are having a knee jerk reaction too this comic and immediately crying out about how gay parents would NEVER DO something like encourage their daughter to be gay like them.

Now personally, I feel in a world with billions of people if you looked damn hard enough, any horrible possibility you can think of is probably fulfilled by someone. And I feel that the instant backlash is another sign of the outrage culture that seems to be becoming the Internet norm, despite the fact that gay people being not perfect is no less valid a storyline choice than straight people being not perfect.

But more than that I feel that maybe, just maybe, people should read the damn comic and not instead generate the most offensive scenario possible in their heads that they then object to rather than the comic itself. Lacy never said her parents pressured her into liking girls. She said they told her boys can get her pregnant, which, you know, IS sort of how that works. Further they said she was "not ready for that" at an age when, well, that's probably true.

Lacy doesn't say her mothers told her she had to be a lesbian. She DOES say she'd rather be a lesbian like her moms, but that's HER thing, and not necessarily the result of pressure from her parents. Kids with good parents often want to be like their parents. I don't see how a child raised by a gay couple wouldn't want to be like their mothers or fathers if they had a positive relationship with them.

Now, the writers could still go the parental pressure route, but judging by the dialogue in this strip, I feel any such impetus Lacy is feeling is from herself not her parents.

[Varanus]

Someone may've said this already, but I skipped a few pages after reading one too many posts from people who are having a knee jerk reaction too this comic and immediately crying out about how gay parents would NEVER DO something like encourage their daughter to be gay like them.

While I agree with your main point (that ideally a story should be able to depict things like gay parents pressuring their kids to be gay without it automatically meaning the author is endorsing it), it bears mentioning the dialog you are referring to is not what was originally posted. It got edited (by page three of this topics) to make plainer what was planned to be revealed later. Some are upset it got edited to begin with, some still find it offensive, but most are fine with it.

[tau neutrino]

It's fine to not like infidelity, but um... why are you reading a comic about sex demons who's primary job is to seduce the weak willed? Like... of course there's going to be some broken homes, they're succubi and they literally don't believe in traditional marriage. It's like reading Vampire Cheerleaders and being upset when one of the girls uses someone for their own personal gain. It's something that should have been expected from the very beginning.

It's probably because Chloe is presented as different from the other succubi, trying to save Teddy instead of damning him. She feels guilty about breaking up couples and tries to rationalize it. She even fantasizes about being in a monogamous relationship with Teddy. As for Vampire Cheerleaders, if it was Heather and Leonard, people were shocked they identified with him and they were supposed to be childhood friends. There were also people crossing over from EC who were used to nice vampires. (Of course some EC fans insisted the VC were the good guys and Leonard was doing it willingly or deserved it.)